Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Hamley


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The result was redirect to Hamleys. Daniel (talk) 23:55, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

William Hamley

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline nor the more detailed Notability (biographies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." (outside numerous mentions that he founded Hamleys) It was deprodded with no meaningful rationale. I couldn't find anything else in my search to suggest he is known outside this single event (founding of a company named after his family). I couldn't find even his dates of birth or deaths, and the location of birth given in our article may be an error, although "a William Hamley", born there, was a father of a Royal Navy officer: . Unless we can find better sources, I think the best non-hard deletion option that can be justified would be redirecting to Hamleys where the subject is mentioned. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 00:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep It's quite easy to find more sources such as this. Per WP:ATD. "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 10:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , There is one and a half-sentence dealing with the subject there: "... Cornishman William Hamley who grew up in Bodmin. William Hamley left Cornwall for London in 1760 to open his first toy shop in the High Holborn area. ." Nothing useful to improve this sub-stub to even a stub size. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 14:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Something is not nothing. The subject is specifically commemorated by an official plaque which may be seen at London Remembers and I will take a picture myself when I'm down that way.  They therefore pass WP:ANYBIO.  Our policy WP:IMPERFECT specifically welcomes small, tentative starts on a topic and stubs are specifically permitted. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:15, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , I think we can both agree on something (which is nice), that is, it will be good to have a free picture of the plaque. And as usual, I expect we will remain divided on whether two sentences on a plaque (and nothing else in any other sources) are sufficient for notability. A redirect to the company he founded, where the name of the founder is mentioned, seems all that is sufficient in light of WP:GNG. Imperfect articles are fine - IF they can be expanded, and no sources suggesting such a possibility have been shown to exist. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:01, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hamleys. Additional biographical sources with actual substance would be needed for notability warranting a separate article. A small plaque about the company does not exempt a person from needing significant coverage. Reywas92Talk 05:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Hamleys. Not enough info to have a page on its own.Peter303x (talk) 23:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect not enough sourcing, and as far as I can tell, all the content is already on the Hamley's article. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:46, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


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