Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Hughes (footballer, born 1865)


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The result was merge to Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1865). Fenix down (talk) 18:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

William Hughes (footballer, born 1865)

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I tried to merge this to 1893–94 Liverpool F.C. season like with James Henderson (footballer, born 1870) and Wally Richardson (footballer), but told me to take it to AFD. Still, this should be merged. ミラP 21:36, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL. It is not standard to merge player articles into club/season articles. According to this Hughes played League football for Bootle as well. GiantSnowman 21:40, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * But you've voted delete on footballers with similar careers mentioning that GNG is "more important than scraping by on NFOOTBALL for one appearance": Articles for deletion/Artyom Alimchev / Articles for deletion/Roman Grokhin / Articles for deletion/Magomed Muzayev / Articles for deletion/Erik Németh / Articles for deletion/Yevgeni Nosov (footballer) / Articles for deletion/Semir Sadović / Articles for deletion/Maito Santos / Articles for deletion/Kalla Toure. This fails GNG and should be merged. ミラP 23:39, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Why would the article on Hughes be merged into the Liverpool season article? He also played professionally for Bootle.  I can confirm when I am at home tonight and have access to my reference books exactly how many games he played for them, but it seems pretty clear that he made more than one professional appearance in his career, so a merge into one specific club/season article doesn't seem appropriate....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:33, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I will confirm/investigate further tonight, but after some further Googling I now believe this player is in fact the same man as Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1865), who played international football for Wales.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:06, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I checked Michael Joyce's Football League Players' Records 1888-1939 book, and the William/Billy Hughes who played for Bootle played 22 times for them. Joyce doesn't list him as playing for Liverpool, but does list Abel Hughes as playing once.  The LFC History reference in William Hughes' article says that this is a misattribution and should relate to William Hughes (supported by this, which indicates that Abel Hughes didn't sign for Liverpool until some months after the match in question).  If we accept that this is correct and combine it with the fact that the same reference says that William Hughes of Liverpool had previously captained Bootle then that means that the William Hughes who played once for Liverpool and the Billy Hughes who played 22 times for Bootle must indeed be one and the same.  The articles should therefore be merged...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge with Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1865), who is clearly the same chap. Also via Kjell Hansson's site, the Liverpool Mercury 1893/94 season preview suggests that "Billy Hughes, late captain of Bootle, will be found assisting Liverpool when the season commences". The Cricket and Football Field newspaper of 2 September 1893 reckons that "Liverpool F.C. did well in securing one of our oldest local players, 'Billy' Hughes, of Bootle that once was." And the Liverpool Echo report of the match against Northwich Victoria in February 1894 names "W. Hughes". As Chris points out above, Abel Hughes didn't sign for them until the end of the 1893/94 season. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:35, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1865). Clearly notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:22, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge ٌWhen there is this article Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1865) it should merge into it.Alex-h (talk) 09:47, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Billy Hughes (footballer, born 1865). Why has no one done this before? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 14:11, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy Merge Obviously notable, obvious duplicate, let's just be bold and do this now. Smartyllama (talk) 19:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


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