Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William J. Hadden


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The result was no consensus.  A  Train talk 08:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

William J. Hadden

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO and mayor pro tem of Greenville, North Carolina doesn't satisfy WP:POLITICIAN. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:37, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I think that the article on William J. Hadden should stand as it is. Rev. Hadden was a noted local politician and citizen in Greenville, North Carolina, during a time of great social and racial upset and change in the 1960s and 1970s. While many white southern ministers, priests and rabbis were instrumental in ending local segregation and racial discrimination, their contributions are often not recognized or documented, especially on Wikipedia. There are many outside sources of information about Rev. Hadden and his life, but because they were mostly pre-Internet, it is difficult to identify him. However, his actions and accomplishments are readily mentioned in a number of books, newspapers and local publications, and these some of these are found on the Internet as well. The article counts 16 independent references to his life and actions, which is a comfortable amount of references of historical and current interest and notability, and thus cumulatively show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article". Finally, Rev. Hadden was active in many fields, being at the same time a minister, local politician, television presenter and a community leader. It is difficult to confine his contributions to only one field, but his combined accomplishments resound in several different ones. He is a significant and notable person of interest to 20th century life in Eastern North Carolina, and a worthy addition to Wikpedia. Hadden (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:35, 12 October 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) &#xF0F6;  18:03, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * User:Hadden, I agree with you, perhaps due to my soft spot for individuals who took part in the Civil Rights movement. However, I've just spent half an hour running searches, and I can't source this; also tried omitting the initial and using "Bill". Being included in an oral history archive does not support notability. Several of the old links dating back to your creation of the page are dead, and those sources are not familiar to me.  if you can repair those dead links, or find bluelinked sources, do ping me to take a second look.   Otherwise, Delete.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:41, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- If he were just a pastor or a local politician, even both, I would say he was NN. However, his human rights work and being a founding member of the state Human Rights Commission is probably enough to lift him over the barrier into notability.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:58, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Peter, Where are you seeing that? I see that the Good Neighbor Council was founded at the state level]], and that Hadden was founding chair of the Greenville branch.  He was also an elected member of the Greenville City Council.  But Greenville is a smallish city,currently listed as the 10th largest city in N. Carolina, with a present pop. of ~90,000.  As I said, I would love to change my iVote to keep.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Ran some more searches; frankly puzzled. Admittedly, small city newspapers rarely have good archives, still, I would expect to have been able to find an obituary for a civil rights figure of regional note who died in 1995. Perhaps in a church publication.   Also, there are a lot of published memoirs and regional, local histories of the movement, is is possible that I am failing to find sources because he was refereed to by some name other than Bill and William?  Hadden turns out to be a more common name than I had realized.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Reluctant delete The subject sounds like a wonderful person who did many great things but I agree with those editors above who have noted that the sources provided so far don't satisfy our standards for notability. ElKevbo (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep A lot of borderline assertions of notability, charitably. His six terms on the Greenville City Council as a politician, civil rights figure as Good Neighbor Council Chair/Housing Authority, and religious ministries are not, on their own, sufficient, but I think the sum of the parts gives enough room to retain. Especially since the article is otherwise without glaring issues. LargelyRecyclable (talk) 19:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


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