Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William L. Gertz


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The result was   delete. Secret account 01:11, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

William L. Gertz

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Apparently written by a PR firm, the subject does not appear to have notable, reliable sources about him to sustain an article. Previously deleted (I think via prod), was recently written again without addressing the problems. Thargor Orlando (talk) 22:14, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Merge with AIFS article - he is mentioned in various sources, but none in-depth enough for him to warrant a WP article. He would be much better off in his company's article (where he isn't even named, at the moment). &mdash;Lucas Thoms, formerly My Ubuntu (talk) 22:29, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
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Hi everyone - I am not a PR firm, I assure you. My last name is Liberty - and I work in the PR industry. That's why my username is LibertyPR. Gertz was recently in a newspaper article (I added the citation yesterday) and has written several publications. He was responsible for starting the first ever au pair agency in the United States to go along with his other many accomplishments in the international education field. I am happy to change my user name or provide any other credentials to assure that this is not a marketing or PR firm. --LibertyPR (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lacks substantial coverage from independent reliable sources. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 01:42, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to AIFS also okay. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 07:44, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep cites: http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=40374227&privcapId=4259373 and http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/05/us/05aupair.html?pagewanted=print&_r=1& amongst others. Just for article development: states "Bill helped AIFS launch the Au Pair in America program - the very first legal au pair agency in the United States", When? how? cite those two? If significant put comment to this effect in lead?  Gregkaye (talk) 23:49, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Your first cite appears to be a company-provided bio and the second has only a passing mention. Can you provide any substantial coverage of this subject from independent, reliable sources? --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 02:25, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:42. I don't see how his accomplishments are notable, and they can't be shown from significant coverage in independent and reliable sources. For example, lots of people have taken continuing education courses from Harvard University-affiliated schools.  Many of the sources are random links to things he's done, such as the social media links and a brief quote in the Times article about au pair services.  Quite bluntly, the guy runs a babysitting service for rich people.  How the hell is that notable?  We are not WikiWealthyServices or Onepercentpedia. I would go along with a redirect. Bearian (talk) 17:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 02:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)




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