Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Marshall (British Army officer, born 1889)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Siege of Najaf (1918). Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

William Marshall (British Army officer, born 1889)

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Army officer killed during minor 1918 uprising in Iraq. Undoubtedly a fine and upstanding chap, he offers no notability as an historical figure. Fails WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Iraq, India,  and United Kingdom. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:BASIC. Mztourist (talk) 06:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:GNG Contributor008 (talk) 07:39, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment. Appears to have only been a captain. And an Indian Army officer, not a British Army officer. I really wish editors would learn the difference. They were entirely different armies. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:41, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Fixed. In the unlikely event that this AfD results in keep, we might want to move it too. Koopinator (talk) 10:23, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: A new name of "William Marshall (British Indian Army captain)" has been proposed via this edit.  — Jeff G. ツ 18:56, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "British" is unnecessary, as this was the only Indian Army! It wasn't called the British Indian Army. And that's not how we title these articles in any case. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Delete and move to draftspace  Redirect/merge to Siege of Najaf (1918): Agree that this article doesn't currently meet notability standards. I'll see if I can work on it later and perhaps eventually get it back to mainspace via Articles for creation. Koopinator (talk) 10:33, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Changed vote to redirect/merge. It might make sense to create a "Leading figures" section in the Siege of Najaf (1918) article, in the vein of 2017 Wichita swatting or Afghan tribal revolts of 1944–1947. In any case I request that the article history stay intact. Koopinator (talk) 16:35, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 20:10, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, or at least redirect to Siege of Najaf (1918). The subject is mentioned in some detail here for his actions and murder in Najaf in 1918. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 18:45, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Siege of Najaf (1918), which already covers everything this article says but in greater detail. The only coverage Marshall seems to have received is in the context of that Siege and his death during it, making this a case of WP:BIO1E. Devonian Wombat (talk) 07:24, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Siege of Najaf (1918) as an alternative to deletion. A stand-alone article isn't warranted per WP:NOPAGE since any encyclopedic information about Marshall can be (and in fact already is) discussed in the siege article—the sources don't indicate that he's notable for anything else. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:41, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

I have written a short paragraph on this person in the Siege of Najaf (1918). Is it fine with you all if we just redirect this article there? Seems fair, as most coverage (not counting routine information in soldier lists) only talks about him in relation to the uprising. "William Macandrew Marshall (6 February 1889 – 19 March 1918 ) was a British Indian Army captain. He had performed military service since 1908. By 1915, during World War I, he served as the captain of the 37th Dogras regiment, serving in Mesopotamia. He fought in the Siege of Kut and partook in the conquest of Baghdad. On 1 February 1918, Marshall was stationed in Najaf, a city he would come to administer over the following weeks. William R. Marshall, British commander-in-chief of Mesopotamia, said he was popular among local inhabitants. In the morning of 19 March 1918, a number of Najafis led by Haji Najm al-Baqqal disguised as Shabanah, the British-employed Arab police, entered the citadel of Najaf where they murdered Marshall." Koopinator (talk) 17:17, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Section for this person in Siege of Najaf (1918) article


 * Delete No evidence of notability. ZanciD (talk) 19:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.