Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Mensah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Meets WP:ATHLETE as player in Premier league, and meets WP:N as shown (non-admin closure) ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 09:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

William Mensah

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Non-notable player. Should be recreated when he makes an appearance, also Akwety Mensah may fail Spiderone (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; non-notable player who fails WP:ATHLETE. GiantSnowman 15:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - he's played in the Egyptian Premier League and passes WP:ATHLETE. It's probably easy to get this to pass WP:N as well. Jogurney (talk) 17:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - The Egyptian Premier League isn't professional Spiderone (talk) 07:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - according to WP:Footy that is still under discussion. Suggest AfD's on Egyptian Premier League players suspended until a consensus first reached on whether the league is professional. By putting them up for AfD to 'test the waters' all you're going to get are the deletion addicts in their usual deletion frenzy mode. 8lgm (talk) 10:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, fair point, however since the Algerian and Libyan leagues definitely aren't professional then many of their players fail WP:ATHLETE Spiderone (talk) 10:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would also suggest that the Mensah article could pass WP:N if someone looks for sources. He's been called into the Ghana national football team camp before (although I'm not sure he has played), and will have significant coverage from his playing days at Haras El Hodood. Jogurney (talk) 12:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Let's use a bit of common sense with these arguments about whether a league is fully professional. Egypt is a country of 76 million where football is the most popular sport. That means, on any reasonable, non-lawyering, interpretation of notability guidelines, that the players in its top league are at least as notable as those in, say, Denmark (pop. 5.5 million). Phil Bridger (talk) 16:59, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why a source can't be found to prove it's a professional league though. I admit it would be a shame to see an article like this go though if that was the case. Spiderone (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's my whole point. If it's a shame to see an article go then we don't have to delete it just because it doesn't meet the strict wording of a guideline. Guidelines are there to guide us in our decisions about what's best for the encyclopedia. They are not binding laws. It's perfectly normal for there not to be sources readily available in English to say for certain whether a league is fully professional - even for a country where English is by far the majority language we find it hard establish this for certain, so why do you expect such sources to be readily available in English for a country that doesn't use the Latin script? Phil Bridger (talk) 18:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - let's assume the article fails WP:ATHLETE, does it pass WP:N? I would argue that almost all of the sources meet WP:RS, but perhaps most of the coverage is trivial. At least one source has significant coverage, and a few of the others are close. Does anyone else agree that this article would pass the general guideline? Jogurney (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - seems notable enough to be getting articles in foreign media, . Meets WP:N as well as WP:ATHLETE. Nfitz (talk) 01:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Played in Egyptian Premier League, an Egyptian professional league for football clubs and represents the top flight of Egyptian football. Played 2008 in CAF Confederation Cup, an international club association football competition. --Ilion2 (talk) 21:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep the Egyptian league is a notable professional league Eldumpo (talk) 22:05, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.