Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Sichel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was - Keep - Peripitus (Talk) 06:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

William Sichel

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Attention has been drawn to the fact that this article seems to be a self-promotion page on behalf of the author, over which an edit war seems to have started. Je sais! (talk) 14:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC) — Je sais! (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment. Please don't accuse me of edit-warring. I have simply been removing the prod tag which an IP editor keeps insisting on reinstating even though it's contested, and reinstating references from the Sunday Times and the BBC which the same IP editor keeps removing. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment It takes two to edit war! Je sais! (talk) 17:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*Delete. Has competed at a high level, but has attained no results which indicate notability. First person writing and extensive career notes are also a problem. Mostlyharmless (talk) 05:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Even with the two news articles on him about the same event there isn't nearly enough notability to justify this page's existance. Alberon (talk) 14:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Easily passes WP:BIO by competing at the top level of his sport, and by independent references in reliable sources. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  22:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article now asserts sufficient notability. Mostlyharmless (talk) 22:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. First person writing and extensive career notes can be fixed by editing. You will still be left with the verified statement that he has competed for his country eleven times, and the fact that two of the most reliable of reliable sources have chosen to publish articles about him. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a runner myself, and while most of these results are results I or any other runner would be pretty proud of, there aren't many significant international events where this person has actually placed well. The Sri Chimnoy Basel race and 7th place at the Badwater are the only things that push in the direction of notability, and the rest is just spam. Mostlyharmless (talk) 09:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

— 86.148.193.7 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. unsigned
 * Weak Delete. My reading of this is that he is an athlete of local interest only. As for competing for his country, I do not believe he was selected by his country to compete, rather that his nationality was simply noted by the organisers of the races in which he participated.  Not notable nationally. 86.148.193.7 (talk) 09:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nor has Je Sais who has presented this deletion. 20 edits or so--MacRusgail (talk) 21:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. Poster should do this with relevant articles in future.  --MacRusgail (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - he has coverage through multiple independent sources, including the BBC. -- Whpq (talk) 16:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - international competitor. Any self-promotion can be edited out. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He won the Across The Years run in 2004, see ARRS. Notable? -- Hunding (talk) 18:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.