Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Stirrat


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 10:33, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

William Stirrat

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This article is completely original research. It should not exist in Wikipedia. There is no independent ref provided for the central claims being made that this person didn't write the song, and almost every ref is used argumentatively. It is somewhat shocking that this page exists. Jytdog (talk) 00:39, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete and possibly start over Merge with Unchained Melody Except for the fact that article is indeed an essay, I am unsure if article subject meets notability guidelines. If he does, then it would be better to revert to a previous acceptable version or to simply delete it and start from scratch (i.e. WP:TNT) since there is no significant content except for the rant. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 00:58, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, all past versions of the article do not give any information about subject except for trivial mention "was an electrical engineer". Details about the controversy can be added to the main article in a short paragraph or two, without being as bad of a rant as it is now. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 01:02, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * Merge to Unchained Melody. The man is notable for one event only, doesn't deserve an article.--Rusf10 (talk) 04:42, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Do something . Changed to delete see discussion below. Interesting case. As it stands the article is hopelessly OR and it won't do at all. The most significant references were dead for me so here they are resurrected:"Writer forever linked to ‘Unchained Melody’" and "Frank Music v. Compuserve". However, Zaret died in July 2007 and many obituaries were published at that time (e.g. Zaret was songwriter) which say that the copyright claim was completely resolved in his favour and against Stirrat. The article cites none of these reports - indeed it was essentially written before July 2007 and has only received mindless editing since April 2007. So I think editorially this only deserves a passing mention in Unchained Melody, if even that. So delete, selective merge or, conceivably, keep with an utterly complete rewrite, would all be OK by me. Thincat (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This is the closest I've found to a RS. isn't a source, but the author has an interesting opinion of Wikipedia's role in the whole thing. –dlthewave ☎ 21:32, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have added a sentence to Unchained Melody based on the NY Daily News and Post Telegraph refs. We can just delete this essay. Jytdog (talk) 21:49, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Good. I'll now go for delete (see above) to get rid of the highly unsatisfactory material in this article but I wouldn't fault someone subsequently coming along with a redirect. Thincat (talk) 22:28, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete this wasn't notable as a hoax; mentions of the legal battles in Zaret's obituary doesn't make it encyclopedic. I don't think a redirect is appropriate; I'm not sure this William Stirrat is more notable than the person in . power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 04:00, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge / Redirect to Unchained Melody There are enough sources about the hoax -- including this source from The Washington Post, this one from The New York Times and this one from Fox News, all obituaries of the real Hy Zaret from 2007 - but not enough to merit a standalone article for the hoaxer William Stirrat. A merge allows a trimmed-down version to be reflected in the article about the song, which already includes a brief mention of the hoax. Alansohn (talk) 04:50, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a nn grifter. Merging this content to Unchained Melody or redirecting would be WP:UNDUE and would not improve the target article. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:12, 26 January 2018 (UTC)


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