Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Urban


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:49, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

William Urban

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Lack of notability. Rhode Island Red (talk) 15:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 15:39, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Userfy Should the consensus decide to delete, I'd like the closing admin to put this article into my userspace so I can rehab it. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 15:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:48, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep - newspapers.com gives a standard smattering of results for a professor, including minor awards. A bio in Andrew Holt's online(?) Crusades Encyclopedia seems significant, is that a RS? Certainly the article seems rehab-able. Smmurphy(Talk) 18:44, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as WP:AUTHOR with multiple published books. Here are sample reviews:
 * Book Review: Matchlocks to Flintlocks: Warfare in Europe and Beyond, 1500–1700 by William Urban. Reviewed by: Randall, Karl. War in History, Jul 01, 2013; Vol. 20, No. 3, p. 417-418: "The article reviews the book "Matchlocks to Flintlocks: Warfare in Europe and Beyond, ..." more
 * Book Reviews. Bond, Brian;Mulligan, William;Halsall, Guy;Murray, Alan V.;Peters, Edward;G... War in History, Jul 01, 2006; Vol. 13, No. 3, p. 380-418: "The article reviews several books about military history and human rights including..." more (Includes review of Urban's Teutonic Knights and calls it "the first survey of the military history of the Teutonic Order in English", so a fairly significant work).
 * I have access to the full reviews if anyone is interested. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:34, 4 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep seems to pass several notability standards for academics and authors. The primary nominating argument "lack of notability" is essentially stating that the the article is not notable because it lacks notability--which is a circular argument that falls under WP:Not notable, an argument to avoid in deletion discussions.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:34, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


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