Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willow Lawn (GRTC BRT station)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. slakr \ talk / 07:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Willow Lawn (GRTC BRT station)

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Wikipedia is not a directory of bus stops. This bus line doesn't even exist yet. Fails WP:GNG. Tchaliburton (talk) 07:06, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * While AFD isn't WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, there are many many other bus stops and bus stations recently created and I've noticed them doing new page patrol. Perhaps a whole AfD of all related articles is in order. &mdash; kikichugirl  inquire 07:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following unremarkable bus stops on this non-existent route:

























The only stop I'm not nominating is Main Street Station (Richmond), which is a historic building. Tchaliburton (talk) 07:15, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions.   07:27, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.   07:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete all seemingly nonnotable (future) bus stops. Consensus is that (even current) bus stops are not inherently notable.  07:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep all rather irrational to even consider deletion. Why keep the Hartford-New Britain Busway articles then? Quidster4040 (talk) 07:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Tchaliburton, you really do not understand the difference between conventional buses and BRT, do you? Quidster4040 (talk) 07:51, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The Hartford-New Britain Busway article is much more substantial and developed than the GRTC Bus Rapid Transit Line article, which doesn't even have any references, just external links. The line appears to be proposed, but not confirmed. If it never exists, then it's probably not notable. Merging all of these stops into the main article might be a good idea, though. &mdash; kikichugirl  inquire 07:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Quidster4040, WP:ALLORNOTHING isn't a valid argument. Tchaliburton (talk) 08:33, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Tchaliburton, that's an essay, not the rules. Quidster4040 (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make your argument valid. Tchaliburton (talk) 23:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure it does, you cannot use opinions to base your convoluted argument because you're mad that there's an article of a bus line station. Quidster4040 (talk) 19:18, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Quidster4040 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. &mdash;  kikichugirl  inquire 19:55, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Quidster4040 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. &mdash;  kikichugirl  inquire 19:55, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete all—as non-notable. A simple listing of spots that doesn't try to be a schedule might be in order in the parent bus line article, but without any further information, this isn't even a valid merger situation.  Imzadi 1979  →   08:59, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:NOTDIR - my official !vote, since I realized I didn't put one. They're not notable and don't have enough RS to claim notability. Unfortunately A7 does not apply to places/stops like these. If there's any important information, they should be merged into the main article before being deleted without a redirect. Maybe once the line is created, then the articles can be created if they're notable (WP:TOOSOON) &mdash; kikichugirl  inquire 10:27, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete the lot per WP:NOTDIR - We don't need articles on bus stops, Nothing to Merge & pointless Redirecting. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  17:32, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Still in the study and planning phase and even if implemented will not be a dedicated busway. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:13, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to GRTC Bus Rapid Transit Line, with the exceptions of Staples Mill (GRTC BRT station), which should be redirected to Richmond Staples Mill Road (Amtrak station), and obviously Main Street Station (Richmond), not simply because it's a historical building as the nominee suggests, but because it's a railroad station that already has an existing article. User:Quidster4040, clearly has a valid argument over the fact that these presumably mere "bus stops" are for Bus Rapid Transit, and that if they go, so should the Hartford-New Britain Busway station articles. On the other hand, User:Secondarywaltz has pointed out that the system is still in the studying and planning phase. -User:DanTD (talk) 18:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Whoa There is a big difference between curbside bus stops and real busway stations, which have structures and additional facilities, like an LRT or commuter rail station. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:14, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Is this not still a BRT system? Are they being planned as something other than curbside bus stops? -User:DanTD (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Some sections will have buses running in dedicated lanes in the median and at other places mixed traffic operation with curbside stops. These will just be enhanced bus stops within the confines of the road - not true station structures within a separate busway. Read about it in Wikipedia and follow the links. Secondarywaltz (talk) 23:22, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge all by routes. Most bus routes remain stable for years, and are of enough significance to be included somewhere, tho not as separate articles.  DGG ( talk ) 01:57, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete all except Main Street Station (Richmond) per WP:NOTDIR. While in general I agree with editor  DGG about bus routes, this non-notable list does not need to be anywhere in Wikipedia. The GRTC Bus Rapid Transit Line article about the proposed bus rapid transit line in Richmond, Virginia is fine without it. --Bejnar (talk) 21:22, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.