Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilson Professor of Hazard and Risk


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Wilson Professor of Hazard and Risk

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Non notable professorship of a mid level university established in 2005. Inadequate secondary reliable source coverage and I cannot see anything unique in this professorship. The Legend  of Zorro  11:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete I don't think it's fair to call them third rate. They're a good university, though not so good that we should make articles on everything possible there. In general, even at first-rate universities, I would oppose making articles on named professorships which are so new they have had only one occupant. It ammooounts to a PR trick to get an additional article, when the one on the professor holding the chair is sufficient. &#39;DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 19:44, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually by mid level university I mean everything which is not so famous as Oxford, Cambridge, or LSE in UK. This is not to say it is a bad university. The Legend   of Zorro  10:50, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep -- As a named chair in a UK university, it is notable. In UK, our university lecturers are not all professors (unlike US), so that any professor in a UK university has bene recognised by the univeristy as notable; hecne the professorship is also notable.  Durham a major university, in the rank after Oxbridge.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Anybody can donate (but has to be huge) money to a university and the university will then create a professorship by that name. This does not imply any kind of notability of the professorship unless it is historically notable. In this case the chair was established in 2005 so it cannot possibly be notable. And the status of a university does not makes any difference here. Also Durham is surely not that much big brand name that every professorship there is notable. The Legend   of Zorro  13:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Durham is a fine university with a long history and good reputation. But this is just a professorship without a long history or any particular reputation in the wider community, and it doesn't carry any particular status or fame: there's a lot of press interest in who'll be Oxford Professor of Poetry and something with the history of Lucasian Professor of Mathematics is also notable (though its article is short), but nobody would say this is remotely comparable. With more recent named academic posts, the Rupert Murdoch professor of language and communication at Oxford has received far more press coverage, but it doesn't have an article. If the current holder David Petley had an article, I'd suggest a redirect, and I've no idea if he's notable or not, but the post itself is not notable. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:30, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Rename to David Petley. Durham is ranked 80th in the world, and 10th in the UK (not far behind LSE, which is 6th in the UK), which puts it pretty much in the first rank. In this case, there's not much on the chair per se, but per WP:PROF #5, holding the post makes David Petley notable, so we should just rename the article and reword appropriately. Merging to Institute for Hazard and Risk Research is also a good option. -- 202.124.89.30 (talk) 03:39, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * How Many times I have to repeat that I NEVER questioned the notability of a professor. This AFD is about the PROFESSORSHIP and it is not NOTABLE. The Legend   of Zorro  05:05, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, chill, dude. If you agree that the person is notable, surely you agree that renaming to David Petley (with appropriate restructuring) is a valid outcome? -- 203.171.197.20 (talk) 07:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually notability is not inherited. In any case David Petley (redlink) is not going to be the only professor to hold this chair. So I cannot figure out how a redirect to David Petley is feasible. And for your merge suggestion to Institute for Hazard and Risk Research, it may be feasible however the interesting fact is that there is already a notability tag placed on the article for 3 years. (Not by me though)  The Legend   of Zorro  07:39, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nobody said notability was inherited . However, holding the post makes David Petley notable per WP:PROF #5. Sure, there will be other occupants of the chair, but David Petley will always be the first one. There's certainly nothing to stop us redirecting to David Petley for now. And eventually the chair itself may become notable. -- 202.124.89.10 (talk) 12:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * First fix the redlink status of David Petley (Dave Petley?) or it will qualify under CSD#G8. The Legend   of Zorro  13:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, we can't simply redirect, but we can move/rename as suggested above, leaving a redirect behind. -- 202.124.89.4 (talk) 14:20, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 21:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Plain non-notable without any doubts. Every big University in US has a lot of professorships like that. My very best wishes (talk) 03:21, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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