Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilson Valera


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The result was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 22:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Wilson Valera

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Since bullpen catchers don't count a major league coaches and don't pass WP:BASE/N, I'm not seeing Valera passing the notability guidelines Penale52 (talk) 17:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Penale52 (talk) 17:33, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 18:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete fairly obviously fails WP:GNG. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 18:05, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 23:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:BASE/N. He was an actual coach while with the Diamondbacks. He is on their historical list of coaches. His article even says he was a coach. Alex (talk) 01:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * If that's so, how come there was never anything written about him? This isn't a guy from the 1880s. If he's notable, I'd expect to find something. Also, please keep in mind that, as it says at Notability (sports), "Please note that the failure to meet these criteria does not mean an article must be deleted; conversely, the meeting of any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept." BASE/N guidelines are provided to help us determine if it is likely that a subject passes GNG. In this case, it is quite obvious that the subject fails GNG. Mellowed Fillmore (talk) 15:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Mellowed Fillmore makes a good point. I would give Valera the benefit of the doubt if he was a coach as late as the 1950s, not just the 1880s, but for a coach in 2010s the lack of anything substantive written about Valera is significant.  The best I could find was this, which basically states "Wilson Valera is... Wait, hands up if you even knew who Wilson Valera was, let alone that he was a coach with the Diamondbacks," quotes his bio from the media guide, and then mocks his role.  On Google News there is just this: One article stating that Valera is "on hand" for the year (and giving his prior year batting average), one stating that he was pinch hit for in a particular game while being 4 for 50 for the season at the time, and one stating that he struck out in a particular game but reached first on a passed ball.  While a more substantial search may turn up more, given Google's abandonment of News archives, what is there doesn't make significant coverage seem likely.   And while I think coaches in the traditional sense should be presumed notable, "coach of Spanish translations and assisting the real coaches" seems to need more evidence of actual notability. Rlendog (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * He's also received significant coverage in Colombia for his work there, so he passes GNG., and so forth. Alex (talk) 21:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * One short article in Colombia now counts as enough for passing GNG? That's funny. - Bbny-wiki-editor (talk) 01:35, 5 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per above. Wizardman  12:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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