Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilton Ware


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Any proposed renaming should be handled the usual way. RL0919 (talk) 20:31, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Wilton Ware

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A long-defunct pottery manufacturer that does not appear to meet the WP:GNG. There are no sources in the article, and searching for sources only turns up storefronts and for-sale pages selling some of their goods. I can find no actual sources discussing the brand. I initially PRODed this without realizing that a PROD had been contested on the day of the article's creation, so I brought it here once that was pointed out to me. Rorshacma (talk) 20:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Rorshacma (talk) 20:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Withdrawn by nominator - See below comments for explanation. I do agree with SpicyMilkBoy that, based on the sources, the article may need to be renamed. Rorshacma (talk) 17:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sources found at 1, 2, 3, with others in passing. Mccapra (talk) 05:11, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hm, I'm not super convinced that those sources are enough to establish notability for the company/product - they seem to be very brief, one or two sentence entries just establishing it existed, but not much else. I'll leave this AFD up for now, but if other editors weigh in agreeing with you, I will withdraw it.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, although the article should probably be renamed to "A.G. Harley Jones Pottery Company" or something along those lines, as Wilton Ware was just one of its trade names. In addition to what Mccapra found, there are a few more sources that discuss this pottery company and their Wilton Ware - Encyclopedia of pottery & porcelain, 1800-1960 (p.175), Miniature Coloured Cottages (p.63) the latter is in snippet view, but the blurb on the search page looks promising: "Wilton China The trademark of A G Harley Jones at Wilton Pottery, Fenton which was started in 1905 and continued until 1934 when he became bankrupt. The firm was quite successful until 1920 after which time he expanded his business and ..." Note that the pottery is variously known as "Wilton China", "Wilton Ware", "Wilton pottery", and A.G. Harley Jones' name is spelled with varying punctuation, which makes searching annoying. Given the company's age, it's very likely that there are more sources offline. And while this is not really a policy based argument, I tend to assume that if someone cares enough to write an article about something 80 years after the fact, it's probably notable... SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 16:48, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * All right, that, in addition to what Mccapra found, is good enough for me! I'll Withdraw the nomination.  Rorshacma (talk) 17:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I don't think it's necessary to withdraw the nomination - it's not an obvious speedy keep case, and someone may yet chime in with a good argument to delete (or more sources to improve the article). But it's up to you. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 17:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Rename to Wilton Pottery, Fenton. Because they are physical collectables, pottery is well recorded in published works, so that it is thoroughly appropriate to have an article.  If there are variations in the company name, that is not an appropriate rename target, but the name of the pottery might be.  Peterkingiron (talk) 11:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)


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