Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Win Zin Oo (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Win Zin Oo
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Was kept previously because of the now-deprecated WP:NFOOTBALL which was linked to WP:FPL (I was among those in favour of keeping in the 2016 discussion). There was nobody within that discussion that argued that Win passes WP:GNG or what is now WP:SPORTBASIC. Given the changes that have occurred since, I think it's reasonable to have a 2nd AfD. Out of the 4 references currently used, only one of them is independent, a Myanmar Times article in which he is mentioned once in the caption.

I have done some searches in Burmese but found nothing better than Mizzima, which is a brief quote, MPT, a passing mention regarding a suspension and MM Load, which mentions him once in the text, in a list of injured players. Unless clear evidence of GNG can be found, the article must be deleted. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football,  and Myanmar.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Delete- I found this separate Mizzima Burmese article talking about his injury and recovery as the primary topic of the article. It's not a lot to go by but it would meet WP:GNG. I think Mizzima is independent (at least of Win Zin Oo) and reliable outside of politics. A weak keep from me, for now. @GiantSnowman can you verify? EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @EmeraldRange, injury reports are generally considered routine for sportspeople (akin to transfer/release/acquisition announcements), so this article wouldn't count towards GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 18:11, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah that would make sense. I think the article goes into depth a little more about Win Zin Oo, but it was already the only source I could find. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 18:13, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Was just about to say what Joelle said. GNG does state also that multiple sources are generally expected. so we would want more than one source ideally, especially for a BLP where there is no automatic bar for inclusion otherwise. A translated version of the injury announcement can be found here. It tells us the player's club, his position, the competition in which he was injured in and also a brief quote directly from the player himself. I don't think it's enough on its own but I'm happy to consider other views on the matter. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thirded - it's not significant coverage. GiantSnowman 18:29, 25 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom. Angelo (talk) 22:58, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete He is definitely notable, but he fails WP:GNG for lack of source. So sadly, I want to explain the situation of the Burmese media. There is no sports media in Myanmar and no one has reported on the biography or any archive of a sportsperson. Sometime The Myanmar Times reported and interviewed some footballers. Unfortunately, following the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état, The Myanmar Times suspended all publication. Many local newspapers have since gone out of business. A great loss for Burmese-related articles. Taung Tan (talk) 10:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that this is happening. I knew that things were not great but did not realise the extent. It's a shame to AfD so many of these articles, I want to clarify that I have nothing but love for the Burmese people (my close friend is married to a Kachin woman). My sole reason for being so active at Burmese AfDs is my wish to enforce WP:BLP and to ensure that we don't have articles on living people for whom no substantial coverage exists. I know that this will be more difficult for a Burmese footballer vs an English footballer of similar ability to reach the GNG bar. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC)


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