Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windmills in the Channel Islands


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to List_of_windmills. Three options have been discussed, deletion, redirect, and disambig. Deletion is discouraged because of the attribution issues.Reirect and disambig are, in principle, both fine, redirecting seems to have slighly more support and contains the same info anyway.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:05, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Windmills in the Channel Islands

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"Channel Islands" are an archipelago, not a political unit. Just as we do not need a list for the British Isles together, we do not need one Guernsey and Jersey together. All information here (extremely little) is already contained (i.e. rehashed) in the "country" articles. gidonb (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. gidonb (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. gidonb (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. gidonb (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * What you mean to say is that per Special:Permalink/549564624 it was all originally written here in this article and then the article was split. &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 03:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That's how this useless article came into being. Now suggesting to drop it! gidonb (talk) 05:08, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * - did you not read what I wrote below when you edited this AfD not long ago? Mjroots (talk) 15:25, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Mjroots, I did. Only specified something that was already out there. I respect you and your opinion and am not in the habit of arguing under my AFDs. We'll see if and what others will want to add to this discussion and something will roll out. Not worried. gidonb (talk) 15:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Nothing worse than an arguer at AfD. I appreciate the reason you nominated it. If it weren't for the attribution reasons I would not be objecting, but it would seem that we have to keep it now. I'm also out of this unless asked to comment further. Mjroots (talk) 15:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * IT CANNOT BE DELETED FOR ATTRIBUTION / COPYRIGHT REASONS - when the article was split, the copied template was not placed on the talk pages of the two split articles. I have now taken care of that. Additionally, not everyone realises that the Channel Islands isn't a country, but two separate sovereign states, the Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Bailiwick of Jersey. Having this list helps direct them to the correct articles. Mjroots (talk) 06:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:05, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, though perhaps in some modified form. Essentially this is a disambiguation page in that it provides readers with navigation to actual articles.  It does not seem obvious how it could be redirected (because redirect to which one of two targets?).  Simply keeping is fine. --Doncram (talk) 04:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:45, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete It's basically a list, with two other lists as the only components. I don't see why we need this. Oaktree b (talk) 14:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * - WP:ATTREQ applies here. Mjroots (talk) 18:02, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - though I'm not happy with it, it's really the only option as there are no reasonable redirect targets (maybe List of windmills, but that section only has the same two links, so wouldn't be helpful) and attribution needs to be kept. ev iolite   (talk)  16:04, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Why has this been relisted yet again. I've made it crystal clear that it cannot be deleted for WP:ATTRIBUTION reasons. This is something that cannot be negotiated over, it's the rules. Mjroots (talk) 13:49, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Question How about converting it to a disambig page? --SuperJew (talk) 13:58, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List_of_windmills per Eviolite's suggestion above; if it's a question of "useless article" vs "redirect to the same content" I fall on the side of redirection to avoid duplication. Primefac (talk) 13:59, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.