Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windows 9 (disambiguation)


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The result was   delete. Black Kite (talk) 10:39, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Windows 9 (disambiguation)

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A violation of WP:TWODAB. Also, I can't understand how one might mistake Windows 9 with Windows 10. In addition, it is created in an attempt to circumvent to consensus on not having a Windows 9 redirect in the first place. There has recently been several attempts, the latest of which was the creation Windows nine. It appears some people just cannot leave rumors well alone. Codename Lisa (talk) 19:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is sticking to the letter of WP:G4 while violating its spirit ï¿½ (talk) 19:49, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Can you please supply an solution that will not cause confusion? It's very clear (due to the page recreations and redirects) that people do confuse Windows 9, Windows 9x, and Windows 10 together. For example, the past two Windows have been Windows 7 and Windows 8, so naturally people will believe Windows 9 would be next, not the unexpected Windows 10 number jump. If you don't want to keep the disambiguation, that's fine, but there must be some solution to this so that all users will avoid confusion. That is why I created this page in the first place; to avoid confusion.


 * Also, this is not an attempt to recreate Windows 9's page, but an attempt to avoid confusion for all. Mine is not based on "rumors" as this user is claiming, but on actual confusion. (Example: http://www.cnet.com/au/news/microsoft-jumps-to-windows-10/). I also can't take you seriously in saying that you can't see "how one might mistake Windows 9 with Windows 10". I explained that above, but really, that should speak for itself. I say that in this case, under WP:TWODAB, this may not strictly necessary, but it IS harmless, and avoids any confusion.  srsrox  BlahBlahBlah...   19:54, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I might add that I created this after there was a speedy deletion nomination for Windows 9 in an attempt to appease all and avoid confusion. Just worth noting.  srsrox  BlahBlahBlah...   20:03, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete (Author). I now think it's best to delete my page and have a hatnote on the Windows 10 page about the redirect of Windows 9 with Windows 9x as the other option. If any admin would do that, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!  srsrox  BlahBlahBlah...   15:22, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. Thanks for this information. However, at this point, the discussion will probably need to go through the full 7-day cycle since there are the equivalent of "keep" votes below (the "move to Windows 9" votes). Steel1943  (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Move to Windows 9 per WP:TWODABS. Both Windows 9x and Windows 10 are relevant targets for a search on “Windows 9” (and the conjunction suggests the reason for skipping Windows 9). —teb728 t c 22:27, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * As there's a primary topic (currently) TWODABS does not say that. I support the primary topic, as Windows 9x is a WP:PTM and strictly shouldn't be listed, but it's OK as a hatnote (or in the see also if there was more entries), to help readers. Widefox ; talk 22:34, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Move to Windows 9, seeing that Windows 9 is a likely search term. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:26, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Windows 9 looks like a correct redirect to me (we actually have a tag for a "redirect from incorrect name" on it). As such, it looks like a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, hence TWODABS says the dab is OK, but not needed. I believe the hatnote now is much better. Widefox ; talk 22:34, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Move to Windows 9 without leaving a redirect. (Nominator) It seems the RFD for Windows 9 is affecting the outcomes of this discussion. As TEB728 said above, per WP:TWODABS we can use Redirect instead of this page. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:08, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * This suggestion doesn't make sense to me. If we keep the disambiguation page and move it to Windows 9, then there won't be a redirect anymore, so how would Redirect be useful in that case?  It seems like you are suggesting we get rid of the disambiguation page, but in that case there would be no reason to move it. Calathan (talk) 19:53, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * "Move" here doesn't mean "rename". It means "transition". The actual result would be deletion and reinstatement of Windows 9 redirect, which is different from deletion and not caring about Windows 9 redirect. Just out of politeness, I didn't want to nitpick on terminology. So long as I understand them and they understand me... Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Move to Windows 9: the two usages both seem useful, and a 2-entry dab page seems more appropriate than choosing either as primary topic and requiring a confusing hatnote. I'm not sure how the outcomes of this discussion and Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_September_30 are supposed to relate, but clearly they are interdependent. Pam  D  19:28, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you consider Windows 9 the primarytopic, with Windows 9x a WP:PTM only worthy of being put in the see also? The only other article I can think of is Plan 9 (it has a "windowing user interface") but that's too much of a stretch to be included to bulk out this dab. Widefox ; talk 22:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - I think Windows 10 is the most likely think people are looking for when they enter Windows 9. "Windows 9" was what people thought the next version of Windows would be called.  In actuality, it will be called "Windows 10", but someone typing "Windows 9" is still probably looking for the next version of Windows.  Since I think Windows 10 is the topic people will most often want, I think Windows 9 should redirect there.  A hatnote on Windows 10 could direct people to Windows 9x for anyone who was actually looking for that page.  The disambiguation page would then not be needed.  I want to note that my opinion would be entirely different if Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 September 30 closes as delete, and also that I don't think the above suggestions to move this page can be carried out if that discussion closes as keep. Calathan (talk) 19:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete TWODABS says this dab isn't needed (but may be kept). I've put a hatnote on Windows 10, which covers it better than a dab, as it's clearly the primary topic, and Windows 9x is a WP:PTM so a dab is completely not needed and the hatnote is better. Widefox ; talk 19:54, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly anyone looking at Windows 9 is looking for the version that comes after Windows 10. The 9x series was never called 9 by anybody as far as I know. Best to just redirect Windows 9 to Windows 10. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 23:03, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oppose move to Windows 9, neutral on "keep" or "delete". Windows 10 is the obvious primary topic for the term "Windows 9". I am neutral on keeping or deleting since consensus is not clear on deleting disambiguation pages that have a primary topic and only one other example. Steel1943  (talk) 23:27, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - I do not believe that a redirect will work at the moment. As initiated by ï¿½, there is a discussion on the Windows 9 redirect at Redirects for discussion.  A conclusion here to redirect Windows 9 to Windows 10 could conflict with a conclusion there.  I would agree that something needs to be done with regards to Windows 9, but with both of these being open at the same time, I do not feel that a solution can be made without both discussions being debated under one discussion.  --Super Goku V (talk) 23:54, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: there's no need for this disambiguation when Windows 9 can be redirected to Windows 10 and a hatnote placed at target article. But as per above comment, this decision should not conflict with the conclusion of RFD of Windows 9 redirect. -- lTopGunl (talk) 00:59, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: No wikipedia user is likely to use the string "Windows 9" to refer to Windows 95 and 98, which leaves only a single item; that scenario calls for a simple redirect. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: The question of whether or not a user wants "windows 10" when they enter "windows 9" in the search box can be handled at Windows 9 (my guess is that should just be a redirect, but that's not really important). Protonk (talk) 16:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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