Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Windows Phone version history (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep - nomination withdrawn. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Windows Phone version history
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The templates used in the version history page will be deleted, but they have been merged with their respective parent articles; the version history page is now redundant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeoGeneric (talk• contribs) 21:26, February 6, 2015‎ (UTC)

Withdrawn by nominator See discussion at the bottom of page. NeoGeneric (talk) 07:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Though one might quote that Wikipedia is not a changelog but concerning several mobile operating systems this has become the rule, I won't necessarily vote either keep or delete because the tables have been merged into their respective subject-pages, but iO.S., Google Android, the Microsoft Xbox 360, and the Microsoft Xbox One all have their respective pages of version history/development history, and it's also quite notable that despite the fact that Windows Phone 8 and Windows Phone 7.X aren't compatible, they do still belong to the same line of products and Windows Phone 8 is a mere Windows N.T.-version of Windows Phone 7.5 (Mango). I can see the "usefulness" of this page, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an online guide to [kindly insert subject here], though it does often link to those sites (see: further reading, official websites, sources, download links, Etc.) and the fact that they're moved to their respective articles in an easy to navigate way kind of defeats the purpose of this article, I've changed my mind, as much as this pains me to say (as this has always been one of my favourite Windows Phone-related articles) I'll have to say Delete because it serves no function, and upon its deletion nothing will be lost anyhow, it would just require a few more clicks and a handful of tabs, and it's more encyclopedic to list them in the manner as NeoGeneric has placed them.
 * Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 08:59, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree 100% with all your sentiment. Some of the concerns that I had in maintaining the single page as it was, is due to the lack of continuity (or perceived) of Windows Phone to Windows 10 which was detrimental to the purpose of the article. Unlike iOS or Android, Windows Phone hasn't been able to enjoy the same relatively smooth continuity and branding.


 * I would also like to say in supporting argument for deletion, in terms of functionality, how many people used the page to check the change logs of Windows Phone 7, 7.5 or 7.8? I would content this same principle for the iOS and Android pages; having all of the versions lumped together can be useful, but it is less encyclopedic and likely more cumbersome to the average user who is checking on the details about the latest OS updates. (Imagine what the iOS page will look like if it gets to version 40?!) <- this argument is probably flawed, so long as the pages are organized appropriately. NeoGeneric (talk) 09:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I was against the deletion initially because I had moved all the content to templates which I have since learned is not what the templates are for. I don't think there is any need to rush the deletion of this page now that the content is out of template namespace, at least until we see what happens with the iOS version history page (I've put up a notice there for inappropriate template usage) and there is a bit more certainty regarding Windows 10.


 * Cheers! NeoGeneric (talk) 09:41, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, every other OS has its own page that contains the same content. This isn't limited to just smartphone OSes like iOS, Android, Windows Phone, Symbian and BlackBerry, but even operating systems like Xbox 360 and One, PlayStation Portable, 3, Vita and 4, all Wii and DS consoles, etc. I get why you would want to remove them, but I think its better to link from the pages from these versions of Windows Phone to the version history, like it is done for all other operating systems too. It gives a better overview and makes it much clearer to readers.--84.195.214.118 (talk) 11:59, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to go either way, but I'd like to get the consensus of a few others before a decision is made. NeoGeneric (talk) 15:02, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't think anyone is really for the deletion of this page, it was only nominated for deletion because it was filled with templates and those have been superseded by wikitables now, I don't see much reason for any deletion, though we'd essentially provide double information now by having them both in the respective "parent" articles and in this page, but honestly I too could go either way, I haven't seen any viable arguments for deletion (and I personally made equal arguments for and against so I don't see myself as having "voted" for either), maybe having a table in both the version and the version history could work, but I honestly like both models, I like having the ability to easily navigate within the article itself, but one could also claim that it's "double wording" as the article itself describes them in detail, so this page would be more about the "raw features" and the articles would explain in detail what they do, anyhow I can see why one would like to (not) keep this article.
 * Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 11:10, 9 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I honestly would simply go with this article and put a link on the parent articles to the corresponsings sections. No reason to delete it. This is one handy overview. --188.118.58.159 (talk) 15:41, 9 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah I think that's a good idea. I'll do that within the next day unless someone else can do it in the meantime. NeoGeneric (talk) 03:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Keep: I've changed my mind and am opposing the deletion, I will remove the notice within 1 days time unless someone else does it or is in favor of deletion. NeoGeneric (talk) 03:02, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, no-one wants this page to go, the only reason the notice was there to begin with was because of the templates that previously inhabited this page, I copy-pasta'd the wikitables the day it was decided to delete the templates so this decision is long over-due, but it should be made clear that Windows 10 Mobile should not appear on this page as it's not Windows Phone-branded and should keep its wikitable on its own page like the P.C. version of Windows 10, but before you'll remove the wikitables from the respective articles let me suggest a manner how they can both stay and we can have this page (a cake and eat it too).
 * Main article: Windows Phone Version History
 * See also: Windows Phone 7 § Version History and Windows Phone 8.1 § Version History
 * Of-course I know that duplicates aren't welcome but both formulas are quite functional, anyway the choice is up to you if you want to remove them from the O.S. articles themselves.
 * Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 19:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've updated the pages, but I removed the wikitables from the parent articles, because duplications isn't a good idea (even though I don't think there will be many further updates to the tables). I also added a Windows 10 section to the page, but made it only very brief and clear that it isn't part of the Windows Phone brand. I kept the sections in the parent articles, but they now only contain a redirect to the version history page. NeoGeneric (talk) 07:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Keep this article but rename (move) it, as, say, for example, List of Windows Phone versions. It is easier to understand as it is exactly as the title suggests, a list of all versions of the Windows Phone operating system, because that is what this page really is about. &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 04:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I've merged article content onto the page so it is now a "true" version history and no longer just a bunch of lists. NeoGeneric (talk) 07:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

'''I've performed changes to the various affected pages, so please let me know of any issues with what I've done! Cheers :)''' NeoGeneric (talk) 07:01, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


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