Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wings of Fire (novel series)


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The result was keep. North America1000 15:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Wings of Fire (novel series)

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Horribly fails WP:GNG. The sources in this article are, well, not too good, most of them are from one site, the publisher of the book, so that's not even a secondary source. The talk page is even worse. It looks like a bunch of ten year olds talking about minute details in the plot. Looking through the talk page, I'm pretty sure that this page will be overrun by fans of the series. Thanoscar21talkcontributions 14:26, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 15:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 17:11, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Comment reviews are available. The article needs to be shortened, but the series likely passes GNG or book-specific criteria with the coverage I've found in a few minutes. I can't get to work on it now, but I will later. Here's a few minutes' research:
 * https://www.kirkusreviews.com/search/books/?q=wings+of+fire&sf=t
 * https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-book-news/article/70961-wings-of-fire-flying-high.html
 * https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/childrens/childrens-authors/article/80441-q-a-with-tui-t-sutherland.html
 * https://www.slj.com/?detailStory=links-wings-of-fire-to-become-a-graphic-novel
 * https://www.slj.com/?authorName=SUTHERLAND%2C%20Tui%20T DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:59, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - The current article is definitely in terrible shape and needs some major cleanup, but the series itself passes the WP:GNG. The one source currently in the article regarding the upcoming TV adaptation is a decent one, as are the ones listed by DiamondRemley39 above.  And I'm finding plenty of other, smaller, sources as well, either regarding the comic or TV adaptations or mini-reviews on some of the products.  So, again, terrible current article, but a subject that passes the WP:GNG and WP:NBOOK.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:25, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: I agree with Rorshacma. I understand the nominator's dismay at the current state of the page, but that can be solved by editing. Reliable source reviews exist, and the article passes per WP:NBOOK and WP:NEXIST. — Toughpigs (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep since NBOOK criteria 1 is met via the published reviews linked here. -2pou (talk) 17:43, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: It does look like there are enough reviews. - Astrophobe  (talk) 22:10, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, not "horribly fails" but meets WP:GNG, this looks like another case of WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP with a dash of WP:IDONTLIKEIT, and was WP:BEFORE carried out (no indication from nominator)? ie. use goooog or better still one of the fine library services available ie. KCLS, a quick trawl thru some of the Wings of Fire titles brings up multiple reviews of some of the books eg. The Dragonet Prophecy - School Library Journal, Booklist, The Horn Book, Kirkus  (reviews here); The Lost Heir - SLJ, Booklist, Horn, Kirkus (reviews here); The Hidden Kingdom - Booklist, Horn (reviews here); Darkstalker - SLF, Horn (reviews here). Coolabahapple (talk) 15:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per above keepers and my own research above. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)


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