Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winnipeg/Lyncrest Airport


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of airports in Manitoba. Missvain (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Winnipeg/Lyncrest Airport

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Non-notable private airstrip, no assertion of notability, no scheduled airline service, STARS doesn't operate here, no significant history, so fails every point of WikiProject Airports/Notability Wtshymanski (talk) 02:14, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  09:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  09:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Manitoba-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  09:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The source clearly says it takes STARS helicopters? Anyways, it was a former public airport, and Winnipeg Free Press has a number of mentions going back only about a decade or so. In terms of airport notability, it's low, but it's above the zero which usually gets private strips deleted. SportingFlyer  T · C  10:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The one rather elderly source says that STARS may land there from time to time - but since the Conservatives have since closed the Concordia E.R., there's no reason to helicopter someone to the east side of the city and transport them over a gravel road. Our STARS article says it's based at Winnipeg Richardson airport. The history source just says several businesses used the strip but that's not clearly a public airfield. I don't see the notability here.  --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Speedy redirect to List of airports in Manitoba. Afd's are not required but I would like a notification that they have been redirected so that some material can be merged over. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 15:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:36, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of airports in Manitoba per above. Article does not meet GNG or NGEO, not sure it even meets the definition of airport.  // Timothy ::  talk  13:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. The nominator missed one very important point in the notability criterion they claim it "fails every point of" - the bit where it says that "General aviation (civilian non-airline) airports which meet one of the following criteria are considered notable: it is marketed to the public for aviation-related services; it is currently or formerly owned by a local, regional or national government entity" (emphasis mine). The City of Winnipeg formerly owned this airport when it was a public-use facility. The guideline explicitly says "formerly" and furthermore notability is not temporary. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The articl currently says "The airstrip was built in the 1950s for private use, then the land was sold to the City of Winnipeg and leased by a flying club" - so the land was owned by the city, but there's no public ownership of the airstrip. --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: WikiProject Airports/Notability is an essay and does not eliminate the requirement for SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and in depth, per GNG and NGEO guidelines. A presumption is not a gaurantee of notability and in this case the presumption is incorrect, there is not SIGCOV.  // Timothy ::  talk  07:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, WP:NTEMP. Remember that references do not need to be online, or even (barring BLP) in the article, for a page to be on Wikipedia, they only need to exist. As a former city-owned public airport there is certainly offline archived material regarding this airport. Arguing "it's only an essay" is rather disingenious; if somebody typed out a lengthy commentary detailing what consensus is, there wouldn't be a problem, but if you use a shorthand link to a page that describes that consensus then oh no. Supplemental notability standards are to cover topics that GNG would let fall through the cracks - such as public-use airports that are part of Wikipedia's remit as a gazetteer - if we're going to go "supplemental notability must meet GNG first" then somebody needs to mass-nominate all the SNGs for deletion as they are, in that scenario, absolutely pointless. (Also I've noticed that nobody ever seems to go "it's only an essay" when the SNG is cited as an argument to delete...) - The Bushranger One ping only 02:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of airports in Manitoba; unpaved strips need significant coverage. Reywas92Talk 01:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Why do unpaved public airports have any different significant-coverage requirements than paved ones? That is wholly illogical. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:09, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, they do too, I'm just referring to the subject here. Reywas92Talk 04:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of airports in Manitoba - I looked for more sources to save but found nothing but local news stories/memtions, or passing mentions because an aircraft that took off from there crashed. KylieTastic (talk) 14:58, 18 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.