Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter Carnival

This Dartmouth College stuff is getting out of hand. There are tons of Winter Carnivals all over the world, and it's the height of egotism to think that an article at this title should be about the one at Dartmouth. It's also not worth moving to Dartmouth College Winter Carnival, because it's non-notable. RickK 06:42, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete for non-notability and to discourage these shenanigans. Only of interest to Dartmouth students, who will no doubt learn of it through other means.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 08:24, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete and Merge with Dartmouth College page if appropriate (possibly a section on college traditions). Darksun 11:37, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. There is no chance whatsover this is the most important Winter Carnival in the world. The Dartmouth college page is rather short at the moment, if these things aren't significant enough to appear there, they shouldn't be in at all. Perhaps a separate page on Dartmouth College Societies would suffice. Average Earthman 12:01, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: I really hope these represent a real person or two and that said person(s) sees the VfD notice and comes back here.  Folks (at Dartmouth): we've nothing against your fine school, your fine organizations, or the fine ways you have fine fun, but none of these are of encyclopedic notability.  Surely there are notable, famous, and important things at the school, if you want local content, but campus organizations and campus activities are almost never going to qualify. Geogre 12:50, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge with Dartmouth College page. Trilobite (Talk) 15:00, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge the relevant/verifiable parts with Dartmouth College. If it inspired a movie with a script by F. Scott Fitzgerald, that is notable and should be mentioned on Dartmouth College page. Andris 15:19, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a significant event, at least as significant as many of the small events like the Gilroy Garlic Festival. Do we want to draw some limit on attendance? Pcw 15:38, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * FYI, the article on Gilroy Garlic Festival says that it is the largest food festival in US, with the attendance of 132,000. Not quite what would qualify a "small event". Andris 15:50, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes. I agree. I'm happy that the GGF is here. It's a great little note. My only point is that what's small and not-notable to one person is a crucial part of someone else's life. It's quite possible that Dartmouth's winter carnival draws ten to twenty thousand people. Perhaps even a few more. It doesn't reach the size of Gilroy's Garlic Festival, but how do you draw the line? 129.170.214.193 18:12, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Also... I'm sort of beginning to suspect that the Dartmouth Winter Carnival, and the Dartmouth Outing Club which founded it, played some kind significant role popularizing skiing in the United States. Haven't got the puzzle pieces together yet on this, though. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 16:28, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC) "1935&#8212;The first overhead cable lift, a T-bar is built at Oak Hill in Hanover, New Hampshire, by the Dartmouth Outing Club. The lift is still in operation." One in a enormously long list of not-really-so-major Major Events of US and World Skiing History. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 16:31, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * The least that should happen to this is that it should be moved to Dartmouth College Winter Carnival. I'll even undertake to write a stub for Winter Carnival. Even after that my vote is still delete, unless someone adds some info that makes it notable. DJ Clayworth 16:58, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Elf-friend 22:46, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Neutral, but Dartmouth Winter Carnival is pretty famous and has been for a long time. -- Jmabel 02:10, Aug 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge into Dartmouth College and make Winter Carnival a redirect to the section. I've made major revisions to the article, by the way. And I've removed my previous long comments from this page, as they are now pretty much incorporated in the article. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 02:28, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC) BTW My own view is that Dartmouth Winter Carnival is notable. Marginally. A lot more notable than the Dodecaphonics. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 02:30, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge into Dartmouth College and make Winter Carnival redirect there until a disambig is needed.--Samuel J. Howard 04:10, Aug 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * I've boiled it down a bit more and performed the merge [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 14:13, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep redirect, or turn into a disambiguation for the event and the movie. -Sean Curtin 03:57, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

In view of the merge of this data into Dartmouth College and the reworking of Winter Carnival to a more general article, this vote is not longer applicable. Keep. DJ Clayworth 19:43, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)