Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter Plummer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 02:56, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Winter Plummer

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The subject had a sad death, but with nothing to distinguish her from many thousands of other murder victims in the world every year. The refs all date to the time of her death and her killer's trial. Nothing to indicate the "persistent coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources" required for notability of a crime victim in WP:VICTIM. Pam D  23:10, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  Vipinhari  &#124;&#124;  talk  09:32, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Much as I hate to say it, I couldn't find sufficient evidence of notability. I'd change my mind if others find such. Ross-c (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Meets WP:GNG as per:, , , . I have less confidence about WP:VICTIM. ~Kvng (talk) 02:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. NN murder victim. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:46, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:19, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * delete article appears to have been written in good faith by a new editor, and I do see how new editors can misunderstand how Wikipedia works. Of course, Winter Plummer's life was notable, and her death was a notable tragedy.  The life of a human being can never be non-notable, certainly a murder cannot.  However notability as the word is used in Wikipedia is a term of art applying standards of notability for inclusion in an encyclopedia.  These are only met if a crime receives an extraordinary amount of attention in the press, or if it has a demonstrable impact on policy, or passes WP:GNG for some other reason, for example, if a notable author bases a screenplay on a specific murder.  I do want to thank  User:Nicolehood for creating thi sarticle, and encourage her to join us at Wikipedia.  It takes a little time to learn how this crowd-sourced encyclopedia works, and I do hope you will join us.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:21, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Onel 5969  TT me 12:57, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - I'm sorry, but neither any individual aspect of her life and death nor the totality of it crosses over the line for notability. I've seen so many sad cases like this where articles created by well-meaning students on a course end up in deletion discussions, and I wish that these courses could focus more on improving existing articles, the mainstay of most contribution to Wikipedia, rather than creating new ones of doubtful notability. Blythwood (talk) 18:50, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:VICTIM.  We would need coverage beyond the crime itself. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:45, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * keep. Violence against women, especially in the military, is often hidden.  While the article may be borderline, I encourage cleanup and addition rather than removing information about death and sexual assault in the military.Bellicist (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as there's simply nothing else I would imagine for a better article because of her death and thus there's no improvements. SwisterTwister   talk  22:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


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