Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winter SWATriplex-18


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The result was delete.  AK Radecki  19:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Winter SWATriplex-18

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Ain't no such thing. A web search turns up only the Wikipedia entry and various mirrors thereof. scot 17:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources, no claim to notability, no proof it exists. Nom is right that there's no on-line mention of it, though that's not proof...  Eliminator JR Talk  18:04, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I do believe most gun makers have websites these days.  Someguy1221 21:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, lack of a website might just mean they're out of business, but the complete lack of mention on the web means they were almost certainly never in business, and it absolutely means that if they were, they're non-notable. Oddball guns often achieve notability just because they're oddball, such as the Dardick guns, Gyrojet and Liliput pistol.  scot 21:46, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Actually, the SWATriplex did exist, but only as a prototype. You can read a little bit about it and see photos in "The Gun Digest Book of Assault Weapons" (1st Ed).  D.E. Watters 22:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Appears that it did exist in some form - I see reference to it on google groups a couple of years back in rec.guns - being in a 1979 issue of a gun magazine. Megapixie 22:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * FWIW: I just found an article about the SWATriplex's design by the inventor, John W. Winter. It can be found in the December 1979 issue of "Guns" magazine.  Winter was a columnist for "Guns" during the late '70s to early '80s.  The column was devoted to Winter's various experimental firearm designs.  Also, in the late '70s, Winter was profiled in a cover story in "Guns" sister magazine, "American Handgunner."  (I have yet to dig out that particular issue from my collection.) D.E. Watters 23:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, article still needs a rewrite, and it seems you're the only one with access to detailed sources ;-) Someguy1221 23:55, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, since you twisted my arm, I went ahead and wrote up a stub using the information that I had. BTW:  Mr. Winter's profile in "American Handgunner" was published in the May/June 1979 issue.  The positive reader response to this article led to the introduction of Winter's "Guns" magazine column in the October 1979 issue.  D.E. Watters 04:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Bit is it notable? Some prototypes, such as DWM's .45 ACP Luger, are notable due to some historical or other significance.  Radical designs can also result in a collector' market, but generally only if there was enough production to allow a collector market.  Since it was a prototype, odd but possibly not revolutionary in design, and there's only one source, that argues against notability.  scot 13:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
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