Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wirtland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Wirtland

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Closing administrator, please know that this official Wirtland blog post has urged meatpuppeting on this article.

Micronations articles that show up on wikipedia are rarely notable, this one doesn't even claim any land. Most of these articles receive a bit of media attention at first, as a curiosity rather than real news, and then fade away. I'm not seeing anything here that sets this one apart. This topic has received a bit of media attention but is it enough to establish notability? Is this something that will simply fade from anyone's interest, including the promoters, shortly. The claim of issuing a coin is interesting but just a claim at this point. RadioFan (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks RadioFan. It is your right to delete my article, of course. I can, however, try to meet all the requirements which were listed. A micronation is a micronation, and one cannot expect a macro attention to them. However, Wirtland has got TV coverage in two of world's countries when it was just six months old. There are also endless articles in non-English countries, particularly in Bulgaria, and Bulgarian wiki article has been in place for several months now. Also, I wanted to tell that I tried to follow the model of ATLANTIUM article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantium), and I have consulted with its author George Cruickshank. He seems to be one of editors of Micronations category. Without his approval I would not have spent so much time in creating this article. I hope this time will not be wasted. Thanks and I hope you give Wirtland a chance. Regards, Witizen (talk) 21:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Witizen


 * Аз не съм голям фен на английския и затова пиша на български.По голяма простотия от това да се заличи нашата държава Wirtland не бях чел отдавна.Какви са тия глупости не ми стана ясно.


 * I disagree with with deletion of this article. Is it not important wish of 500 people to be citizens of Wirtland? Or maybe majority should force over minority? And at the end freedom of express is one of most important freedoms over the World. Romeo Ninov, proud Witizen


 * I disagree with deletion of this article. I am very excited about the idea of a country that has no borders.  The landfree aspect is precisely why it is notable; it stand out against other micronations like Sealand (which has far fewer citizens!)  Lizzit, Witizen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.218.37 (talk • contribs)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * merge to a short paragraph at List of micronations. I just cannot see anything in this article that shows why this micronation is notable. The Bulgarian article (which translates very well using Google) contains less information than the English one. Neither English nor Bulgarian articles contain any relevant incoming article-space links (there is a link from National Register of Historic Places listings in Westmoreland County, Virginia, but that is not relevant). Thryduulf (talk) 18:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Е.. .. ......., Thryduulf! Е.. .. ......, ти казвам. Не искам с теб да разговарям, защот' си прост ......... . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.228.62.184 (talk • contribs)
 * [machine translation of the above from Bulgarian to English: "E.. .. ......., Thryduulf! E.. .. ......, I say. I do not want to talk to you because 'you simply ......... ." Thryduulf (talk) 22:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)]


 * This Micronation has achieved a lot more in one year than many micronations featured here have, and especially more than what they have done in their first year. Wirtland has more citizens than a few of the micronations mentioned, too. Bokontonian (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * From the beginning, I understood WirtLand as an intelligent sociologic experiment.I took notice about WirtLand in LinkedIn, a serious place where we, members, do not "play", where we discuss our professional topics,entrepreneurships, etc.WirtLand is not a game, and it is not a common social network. It is the way to "see" in real time how a group of persons (nowadays around 700), can "build" a nation, their institutions, chambers, and It is notable, even though being an Internet-based country.PAM, another proud witizen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.197.224.249 (talk • contribs) [copied from talk page by Thryduulf (talk) 22:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)]
 * Delete, no real evidence of notability. However, don't expect this link to stay red long — places on the National Register of Historic Places get so much coverage that they're notable, so I'll be recreating as an article about a historic house in Virginia.  Nyttend (talk) 14:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * In which case, if this is kept (not that I believe it should be), this article should be moved to Wirtland (micronation) and a hatnote added at the top of your article about the historic house in Virginia. Thryduulf (talk) 14:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, there won't really be a need to merge anything; the micronations list already has a paragraph on Wirtland. Nyttend (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As a micropatriologist and someone who runs a website devoted to such affairs (The Microfreedom Index, aka "Microfreedom.com"), I would like to see this article retained. Wirtland has managed to attract a bit of publicity in the media and more than a handful of members in its one year of operation than a number of other similar projects. It is an interactive project and one that should be studied more. Other web-based "nations" haven't lasted this long, nor have the attracted this many members. Unidyne (talk) 01:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.