Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wisdom in Book of Revelation


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The result was   delete. KTC (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Wisdom in Book of Revelation

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Unreferenced original research about the concept or theme of "wisdom" in the biblical Book of Revelation. - MrX 01:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Interesting theme, but all I can find is an 1886 book, The Wisdom of the Apocalypse. Not a notable topic. StAnselm (talk) 02:20, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Please do not delete. Hi there! Here is my reply for your concern: 1. Which part of this article is "Unreferenced original research"? Please answer. All I see is pretty cool and everything there has solid sources. 2. This is an important topic related with Great Whore and Number of the Beast. I've just added the "Interpretations" part which shows it's a really critical element of Book of Revelation. Please check it out. And of course, the new content also has many sources. If this is "Not a notable topic", then Number of the Beast and Great Whore are also not "notable". Thanks! VincentLeon (talk) 03:33, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see any sources that support that "wisdom" is a notable theme in Revelation. I see a lead sentence that simply doesn't make any sense, an indiscriminate list of quoted passages, and some tangentially related interpretations. There's nothing encyclopedic related to the central subject. We would need scholarly sources that discuss the theme of wisdom in Revelation, in a clear, unambiguous fashion. - MrX 03:54, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * For Christ's sake, Revelation "wisdom" is THE KEY to understand 666 and Great Whore - the end of the world. Is it important or not? VincentLeon (talk) 07:29, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Currently the content of this article is not perfect - this article has existed for less than 24 hours. Please have a little patience, my friend. The "Interpretations" part is related content, and it has good sources - In fact I copied it from other Wikipedia articles(Great Whore, and Number of the Beast). These interpretations are right on the topic, and have solid sources. Thanks! VincentLeon (talk) 07:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete (unless editor proves notability) – I appreciate the article is new, but do not see how its inclusion can ever be justified. One of the key criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia is WP:Notability. Unless the subject of "Wisdom in (the book of) Revelation" is dealt with in some length and detail by several standard academic commentaries on Revelation, or works on the theology/ies of the NT, or monographs and theses which are referenced by the commentaries, the subject is not notable.  Perhaps the editor should look at WP:FIRST.  A the article stands at this moment the claim that "Wisdom in the Book of Revelation" is an important topic is totally unsupported.  The references provided seem to cover details such as "666=Nero" but do not relate to wisdom as such. Jpacobb (talk) 15:13, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see how an encyclopedia article could be created out of this topic. It not only fails our Notability guidelines, but to make up for that lack the creator seems to have cobbled together their own Synthesis of how many times the word "wisdom" appears in that book, along with some unusual factoids about numerology, Nero, and the seven hills of Rome, which have no relation to "wisdom" that I can see. The two linked sources have the word "wisdom" in them just once, where it appears in one of the Revelations verses. First Light (talk) 00:59, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I would be willing to have it userified to see if the author could turn it into something worthwhile. At present, it is a series of quotations (which could be found from a concordance and a couple of statements about unrelated topics.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * delete obviously. Pass a Method   talk  14:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
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