Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wodzionka (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Wodzionka
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The article seems like a blatant breach of WP:OR and doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY. It seems to have been created by User:LUCPOL, a now indefinitely blocked user, as a personal goal. I can't seem to find anything on it to verify it is notable, and there isn't adequate sources in English. There is one "source" on the Wiki article which only has 1 sentence on the topic. The Polish Wikipedia, which should have more in depth content on it, doesn't seem to have much either, and is also just as poorly sourced as the English version.

The previous decision to keep seems based off the notion [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wodzionka#Redirect? discussed on the talk page] and corresponding AfD post that the article was going to be improved in "at least a month", but it has been ~10 years, and I doubt anyone but User:LUCPOL had intentions of doing so, and he is now banned. I propose a near speedy delete as no new sources or content has been added to show it is notable or verifiable in the past 10 years. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and this article seems to have been created using original research. I feel it is a non-notable and non-verifiable topic.-- Wilner (Speak to me) 00:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 02:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 02:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Baby miss  fortune 02:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. It's no surprise that the Polish Wikipedia article is poorly sourced by our standards - it is generally accepted there that things that are common knowledge don't need sourcing. Loads of sources are found by the Google Books search linked above, and, if you prefer a source in English, I've cited an academic paper that has a few paragraphs of cover in the article. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 09:33, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a problem finding English language sources, but I did find two mentions: A Fodor's Poland travel guide and in a self-published book detailing a day's ration in Auschwitz I think the WP:SELFSOURCE exception applies in this instance. I also found a German-language source from 1847 which mentions the soup. I've added the two English-language sources. And while English sources are preferred, non-English reliable sources may be used as references per WP:NOENG, so I suggest adding one or more of the many Polish sources, as well. There is enough now to support WP:GNG. Geoff &#124; Who, me? 17:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC)


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