Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wolfslair MMA Academy


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:18, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Wolfslair MMA Academy

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The gym is no longer operating. There's not much in depth coverage of the gym itself. Articles on it tend to be more about the fighters and in interview format. Imcdc (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Week keep - the ESPN article is clearly significant coverage in a reliable source. I also turn up some Liverpool Echo articles that relate to disputes the gym had. The fact that it is no longer operating is not relevant - organizations do not lose notability by going out of business. Ganesha811 (talk) 00:54, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree the ESPN/Sherdog article is good coverage. However, I don't think the other articles are and WP:GNG requires multiple significant articles.  I found articles about people joining and leaving the team, but that seems like WP:NOTINHERITED to me.  I'll wait to see if others can find additional coverage. Papaursa (talk) 13:28, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:29, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I think it's worth noting that the ESPN article was originally done for Sherdog, as evidenced by the fact that Sherdog is mentioned 3 times (picture credit, "broke down the coaching lineup for Sherdog.com", and the fact the author is a Sherdog contributor). That means that 3 references are from the same source and one doesn't mention Wolfslair at all because it's a link to one of the coaches' gym.  The article is largely an interview which lessens its independence value.  In addition, my own search didn't find other coverage that I would classify as anything but routine and/or relying on the notability of members. Papaursa (talk) 15:06, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Having one (ESPN) independent, reliable source is not enough to pass WP:NCORP as the other sources are either not independent (the gym own web site) or articles about the fighters instead talking indept or in details about the gym. For a the gym to meets the notability guidelines (either GNG or NCORP) we need significant coverage of independent reliable source whereby the sources talk about the subject in length and inadept. Cassiopeia  talk  23:57, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


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