Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wonderland Mall


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The result was Delete ~ trialsanderrors 05:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Wonderland Mall


This mall has now been demolished and has no residual notability. Delete. BlueValour 21:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't believe in expired notability, that once a subject is notable, it is always notable. If not, 1/2 of the bios on this site should be deleted. Given that I don't see a reason to delete the article from a cursory glance and that I don't accept the nom's rationale, my opinion is a weak keep. hateless 21:28, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - fair point so let me expand. I don't think that there was anything notable about this mall; it was just a fairly large mall. However, there is an argument that a large open mall merits an article because it provides information to people who might visit it. Naturally, that rationale no longer applies and there seems no reason to keep the article. I have added a reference to the mall in the locality article at Livonia, Michigan and that seems sufficient. BlueValour 21:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - once notable, always notable. So I do not agree with the nomination that this mall is losing its notability by being demolished.  Intead, it is now simply historic notability.  The article does state that this is was the first mal built in the city, but gives no sources, which is why i'm making this a weak keep. -- Whpq 22:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete The bulk of this article is dedicated to what stores were in the mall and why the mall ultimately failed. There are thousands upon thousands of malls in the world -- why is this one notable? The article makes no attempt to tell us and thus fails WP:NOTABILITY JGardner 22:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per JGardner. Edison 22:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Demolish per JGardner. MartinDK 23:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Show me one reference that shows this ex-mall is notable today. Just as something can be not notable and later reach notability, something can be notable(barely, if at all in this case) and then later slip in to a lack of notability(for example ceasing to exist). I may change my mind if new evidence is provided(such as showing people really miss it). HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 01:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't believe in once notable, always notable, otherwise there would be an article on Alfred Albonition, but even google does not remember him. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 01:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I came across this issue on RC Patrol once - for some reason I think we have a whole list of defunct malls. I don't know how that cuts, so I won't "vote," but just wanted to pass it along. --TheOtherBob 01:46, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep if trimmed back to factual nub, with the guesstimates as to why it closed removed. Otherwise it's Abenobashi in Real Life -- Simon Cursitor
 * Delete. The reason in the nom is not why since it would not be valid.  My problem is that the article does not assert notability. Without that it needs to go.  If it was notable, then it can not be deleted. Vegaswikian 06:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.