Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wong Chung-Yoh


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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 18:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Wong Chung-Yoh

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WP:NOTINHERITED, no notability aside from his purported relationship with Chatan Yara. This article seems to be copied and pasted from this webpage (not a reliable source IMO), which states: "Wong chung-yoh was a 17th century teacher of a style of martial arts known as xingyiquan. Located in Fuzhou in the Fukien Province of China, he was notable for being the teacher of Chatan Yara." The only difference seems to be "16th century" vs. "17th century": notice that Chatan Yara's article, also clearly copied and pasted from that webpage, likewise uses different dates for him.

So who is this "Wong Chung-Yoh"? This source, which seems more reliable, states: "Chatan Yara (北谷 屋良) (1668–1756), who had in turn studied xingyiquan and qigong in Fujian province under a teacher called Gong Xiangjun." "Gong Xiangjun" is actually the Chinese pinyin romanization of Kūsankū, who lived in the 18th century (Gong Xiangjun/Kūsankū is not a personal name, and may be derived from the Fukienese reading of 拳聖君, "Kung Sing Kun", the "Holy Master of Fists".) I can't find anything connecting "Wong Chung-Yoh" with Gong Xiangjun/Kūsankū, although I found some sources that suggest Gong Xiangjun/Kūsankū's real name may be Fang Qingjin (方卿縉), a martial artist whose name appears in Chinese sources. See Timmyshin (talk) 02:16, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete - no indication of notability. -Zanhe (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete The only claim of notability is for being a teacher of Chatan Yara, but notability is not inherited (and it's not clear that Yara is WP notable). The only sources are passing mentions in sources of dubious reliability. For example, newsfinder.org, which published the longer article on Yara is, says its "intention is to provide an opportunity for academics and non academics, here and abroad, to publish their opinions, critiques, reviews, works of art, literary creations, music performances, and research articles" with no evidence of editorial oversight. It has the same reliability as any other blog. Papaursa (talk) 22:02, 22 January 2019 (UTC)


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