Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wonhwado


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Noting that the article text was also a copyvio and thus also eligible for CSD G12 deletion. Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Wonhwado

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This article was put up for speedy, under the argument that it copied text from a website allegedly owned by the owner of that website Talk:Wonhwado (which would mean a COI)

Apparently, this article existed in 2009, but must have been deleted, but I can't find the AFD. The 2009 article is copied here:

Does not seem to meet the WP:GNG. ColonelHenry (talk) 02:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Why you would like to delete information about one of martial arts from Wikipedia? There are a lot web pages with information about this art. Where is the real problem? -- Jaro 23:48, 5 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.63.166.91 (talk)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete On notability grounds. The article is unreferenced but associated web sites give no indication of notability.  It seems to have some connection to the Unification Church (Moonies) but even that is not perfectly clear.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:00, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Unsourced article with no indication of notability.Mdtemp (talk) 20:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Leave it There are a lot of video on youtube about WonHwaDo (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukxE8t2ICSM or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO_dqJormp4&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL260116D15BDCECC1). In terms of connection with Unification Church (UC) it somehow similar like Aikido connection with Oomoto new Japanese religion. Both was members of some new religion movement, both created martial art. Han Bong Ki (founder of WonHwaDo) didn't want to connect WonHwaDo with UC and because of that he didn't get UC support for WHD. Some of WHD masters, some as Han Bong Ki are members of UC, but Unification Church officially support and control other martial art [Tongil Moo Do], WonHwaDo is developed independently. -- Jaro, 20:30, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Youtube are not references. Article remains unsourced.Peter Rehse (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delte I agree with the above statements to get rid of the page as there are no reference to back up all the claims. Thus questioning its notability. Meatsgains (talk) 02:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Meatsgains, could you explain what do you mean about "back up all the claims"? Also what should people add to Wikipedia to prove notability? How many people in how many countries should study some martial art to get enough notability? WonHwaDo stydy thousands people around the world. WonHwaDo is mentioned in many Martial Art encyclopedias, there was TV programs about WonHwaDo in Korea and Europe (you can find some on Youtube, one link I have added in my previous comment). Why to delete, better say what kind of information should be added to the article to prove notability and solve other issues. -- Jaro, 07:33, 7 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.63.166.91 (talk)
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