Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WoodenBoat (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ─ The Aafī   (talk)  19:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

WoodenBoat
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMAG Lavalizard101 (talk) 20:31, 1 August 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Source inspection wanted. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment ProQuest returns 490 results for WoodenBoat + magazine, particularly among northeastern papers. The oldest article, from a 3/9/82 Boston Globe, is quite long. Caro7200 (talk) 21:00, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism and Maine. Shellwood (talk) 22:17, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, it appears to be a real magazine about wooden boats with some coverage, like in the Bangor local news in Maine, and it's been around for a while. The article is a stub but appears to meet notability. Andre🚐 05:08, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The book notes: "In 1974, into this fertile environment, former boatbuilder Jon Wilson launched what was to become the voice of the movement: WoodenBoat magazine. Aimed at the amateur and professional boatbuilder, it was packed to the gills with practical and historical articles about (mostly) indigenous American craft. Within a year the magazine had attracted 8,000 subscribers, and by the end of its third year it employed a staff of twelve and its circulation and had risen to 25,000. By 1981 it was secure enough to move to grandiose new offices in Brooklin on a 60-acre estate overlooking Eggemoggin Reach, on the east side of Penobscot Bay. There, with the participation of eminent figures such as yacht designer Joel White and authors Maynard Bray and Peter Spectre, the magazine continued to expand and set up its own programme of boatbuilding and sailing courses. By the mid-1980s, its circulation was over 100,000, where it has remained ever since. Clearly, as Wilson wrote in his very first editorial, it was a magazine 'whose time has come'."  The article notes: "Brooklin, Maine — WoodenBoat, "the magazine for wooden boat owners, builders and designers," must have the most spectacular view of any publication in New England. Its headquarters, in a brick, 35-room house on 60 acres of woods and open space here, look south over Eggemoggin Reach — shimmering salt water, spruce-covered islands, distant blue hills, gulls, white sails in the summer. Several of the 24 staff members face their desks away from the windows so they can do their work. The rest just enjoy it. WoodenBoat has other attributes, such as a 70,000 combined circulation (which doubled in the last three years), $1 million in annual sales, and Jonathan Wilson. A 36-year-old college dropout and ex-boatbuilder from Rhode Island, Wilson started the magazine in 1974 with a budget of $14,500 — $11,000 from the sale of his Alden ketch, $3500 borrowed."  The book provides one page of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "WoodenBoat is now an online CoP of owners, admirers, builders, and designers of wooden boats (woodenboat.com). Founded in September 1974 by Wilson WoodenBoat, WoodenBoat was born as an American magazine for boat amateurs and, then, it is become an important virtual place for people who share interest and passion for old and new wooden boats. Today, WoodenBoat reaches readers and community members by various ways such as publications, website, forum and blog, thematic events, and photo and video gallery."  The article notes: "When Jon Wilson started WoodenBoat magazine in 1974 in an off-grid cabin in Brooksville, it filled a niche in the world of wooden boats as a good professional trade journal. The company has since become a mainstay in the wooden boat community with about 60,000 readers. ... Matt Murphy, the editor of WoodenBoat magazine, and Andrew Breece, the publisher of the company’s magazine division, purchased the company on New Year’s Day and plan to keep filling the pages with stories on the emerging technologies and traditional methods of boat building — while also expanding the company’s digital presence." There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow WoodenBoat to pass Notability (organizations and companies), which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:12, 15 August 2022 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep - per sources found by Cunard. MaxnaCarta (talk) 13:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


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