Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woodrow Landfair


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. Neil ( ► ) 10:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Woodrow Landfair

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Orignially tagged for CSD, creator improperly removed CSD tag, but article does weakly assert notabiltiy, therefore AfD is better than CSD. Personally, I feel that this fails our biographical notability standards, so I'm suggesting delete.  AK Radecki  03:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * With the additional sourcing, I'm striking my delete comment. If consensus to keep continues to build, I'll rescind the nom.  AK Radecki  04:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. Greatwalk is right.  I'm still learning how to do this.  I still can't find a way to return your message to me!  Guess I'll be on the help page.  Thanks.
 * Thanks, Akradecki. I appreciate your response very much.  Warm regards, -- Great walk Talk 04:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I propose this relevant and think it should remain. Danjmoore 04:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * is the primary author of the article, and has no edits outside of it or this AFD. --Dhartung | Talk 23:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep This is an article about an author that is well sourced and does meet WP notability guidelines.  On a side note, this article has been authored by a brand new editor with no prior contributions.  Danjmoore is still having difficulty tagging and including uploaded images on the page, for example.  Using a sandbox to develop a new article is not a transparent process to new editors, no matter how familiar the concept is to others.  Also, no prior welcome had been included, nor any offer to assist made.  I don't really feel that an AfD was an appropriate way to welcome this new editor.  Unfortunate, really.  Kind regards, -- Great walk Talk 04:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * KeepWell sourced. Meets notability.  I actually found out about him reading my hometown paper.  Local kid done good!Hornsfannationalchamps 04:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC) — Hornsfannationalchamps (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * keep Obviously, google isn't the authority for verifying content but I did google this, found it was well founded and I think the biography has redeeming value worthy of wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JohnofAmerica (talk • contribs)  23:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)  — JohnofAmerica (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete. I would be convinced if one of his works got published, but until then I don't think he meets standards for notability. I would laso like ot point out that the Keep votes by "JohnofAmerica" (unsigned) and "Hornsfannationalchamps" are these users only edits. --Lenin and McCarthy |  (Complain here) 16:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, the references provided do not do much to establish notability. They constitute listings of the baseball roster in which he played, or blog mentions, or notices of coffee-house appearances. There is only the Austin American Statesman article if we count sources in which he's the primary substantive topic. This is interesting, but far from unique. --Dhartung | Talk 23:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

What do I do with newspaper articles that are no longer on the internet?Danjmoore 03:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Still working on getting all my sources together for this. I have stuff from the Washington Post, Couer d'Alene Press, Bismarck Tribune and some print sources that I'm still trying to learn to cite.  Bear with me.  Thanks for the comments on all sides.  No matter which verdict is decided, it's helping me learn how to do this.  Learning the hard way I guess.Danjmoore 03:18, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Reference them as you would a book or newspaper in a research paper. For resources, see WP:CITET and WP:FN.  AK Radecki  05:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I added some references and have some more to do. Hope these will meet notability standards.  Should be able to source more in the next two weeks.  Thank you for all the insight.  Please continue to let me know if and how this falls short.Danjmoore 15:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and sprinkle liberally with fact tags. --Kralizec! (talk) 19:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete with regrets. As interesting the story and the character, there is not enough here to get over the wp:bio bar.  The references are somewhat lacking, being mostly blogs, small local human interests, etc.  However, I am on the fence on this one and would not be surprised that once the Woodrow's journey is complete, his book published, maybe a little more notable, it would be a keeper.  To the contributor, I encourage you to copy your work with all formatting and store it on your hard-drive or a place like blogspot.com (where you can still have links hook up to wikipedia).  Hopefully no hard feelings... &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 23:26, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps one of our experienced editors or admins could help the contributor "userfy" this page for further work if it is deleted? Or would this be a violation of userspace rules? &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 00:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Move to Wikinews Bradybd 07:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.