Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Work record of Bhaktivinoda Thakur


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The result was   speedy delete. G7 — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 15:33, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Work record of Bhaktivinoda Thakur

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The material in this list may be of use in the article Bhaktivinoda Thakur, but I see no need for a stand alone list. Already proposed for deletion and rejected. SchreiberBike talk 22:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge with Thakur's main article. Doesn't meet WP:GNG/WP:LISTN.&mdash;Lucas Thoms, formerly My Ubuntu (talk) 22:42, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:39, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:39, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge as above.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 07:14, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Clearly lacks notability. I disagree with  Redtigerxyz  as I cannot see how this detail is relevant to his article - he is known for being a religious leader, not a judge, etc and even if he was known best as a judge this is far too much detail. Dougweller (talk) 08:21, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge: Case can be made for the list's notability by itself, as mentioned in our exchange with here. However, including it in the current article on Bhaktivinoda Thakur would work too. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 18:53, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Clear lack of notability for this part of his life, merging it to the main article does a disservice to that article with a weight problem. All that's really required from this particular list in the main article is a one-two sentence extract about his work life and that needs to be fresh prose, so nothing really salvageable here. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  06:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * My guess is that a lack of notability can only then be "clear" when someone making such claims takes the time to study the subject's life in enough detail. All Thakur's biographers have built their accounts of his emerging as the prominent religious leader using his work record as a pivot. However, I agree with the disservice part, with the only exception that the disservice to the subject is the current article itself. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 14:11, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And that is an uncivil comment and is not going to help you. Cinosaur, if I understand you, your use of the word 'notability' is quite different from the way it is usually used on Wikipedia. See WP:Notability. Dougweller (talk) 16:27, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I apologize if my comment came across as uncivil. It was meant just to emphasize that notability has to be taken in the context of the available reliable sources – something the current article fails to provide and the editors favoring the article's deletion may not be aware of. Hence the perceived weight problem referred to in 's comment and the perceived lack of notability in yours, . As I said at my talkpage, "the article in question is actually a list (more precisely, a chronology of events) and as such, falls under Purposes of lists (information) and can be kept per "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability"." Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 17:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Selective merge, no redirect I agree that moving the whole list is likely to create balance issues, so whoever does the merge needs to keep that in mind. No redirect because "Work record of ..." is not a likely search term. --Bejnar (talk) 13:56, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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