Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World Pong Tour


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete, major WP:COI and WP:RS problems not addressed. --Core desat 05:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

World Pong Tour
Note to admins: This AfD has no consensus, as we have an editor who is possibly a spammer, violating WP:COI as he seemingly has an involvement with an agency which sponsors the tournament which is the subject of the article in question. Also, a suspected Sock has voiced xyr opinion.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 22:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

--- The issue of deletion should be based on whether the article is WORTHY of inclusion in Wikipedia and if it is WRITTEN in a NEUTRAL point of view. 'World Pong Tour' is a company which is notable, cited with several 3rd party sources. In addition, the article is written in a NEUTRAL point of view. It is not being used as a promotion tool. The article is what wikipedia strives to accomplish: provide a collection of neutral information about a topic which would aid a researcher in an investigation of the subject. If you look at the beer pong article, World Pong Tour has been listed as a notable 'tournament/league' for some time now. Why is it notable? If it is notable does it not merit it's own article instead of paragraphs of extra information in the article about the game itself? MLB is not merged with baseball for the same reason. Edit World Pong Tour if you feel there are outstanding COI problems within its text, but to delete this article is just ridiculous.---


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Non-notable beer pong tour. Conflict of interest problems. The Evil Spartan 17:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete this article and merge useful info to beer pong. BEST.of.BUFFALO, I do not believe you are trustworthy, as you appear to be a spammer and one of the major COI problems surrounding this article. Change to Weak Keep per the recent edits to the article by B.o.B. change back to original support in favor of deletion.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 17:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep: Notability:  A series of events covering a large geographical area with coverage by multiple media outlets would be considered 'notable' and worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia.  Merge? The beer pong article is already very cluttered.  Notable tournaments/leagues (in the tournament/leagues section of beer pong should have their own articles with detailed information on WHY they are notable 'tournaments/leagues'.  COI Problems:  Please point out.  The article gives history and information about rules and game play.  It does not "promote", but simply gives a description of what the tour is. BEST.of.BUFFALO 14:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * COI problems: Sponsors: World Pong Tour has developed relationships with many companies for both local and regional sponsorships. Regional sponsors currently include FYE, BJ's Beer Pong, Red Eye Breaks, and The Best of Buffalo Promotions. Interestingly, this is a promotinal agency, which you appear to represent, and you also appear to be writing an article on this pong tour. Hmm. The Evil Spartan 19:55, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * COI Problems: First of all, yours. All of your edits as of 14:15 UTC today are Beer Pong related subjects. You are !voting against deletion as an obvious fan of the subject of the article in question, which is extremely fancrufty. Perhaps this article should be stripped down and moved to a detailed list of Beer pong tourneys.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 20:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * "Non notable beer pong tour" Spartan u must be the biggest idiot on the face of this earth, probably the only notable beer pong tour in this country. this is a great entry, keep up the good work guys, don't let lowlifes like this try and keep you down. TMan007 — TMan007 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Wow, that's not assuming good faith at all.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 01:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And surprisingly, your only edit has been to this page. It is a little suspicious that your first edit is on an AfD discussion. Most people have their first edit in the mainspace. Anything to say?  J- stan  Talk Contribs 01:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You wouldn't happen to be a sock, would you? No accusations, just curious so I can report it.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 03:30, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Although I appreciate the support for the article, it looks like a sock. Not mine though.  Feel free to report and check my I.P. on log-ins/edits.  Back to business:  I have edited the article, removing unnecessary elements under the 'Events' and 'Divas' sections.  I believe those edits should remove COI problems.  I, in good faith, feel that this article is appropriate for Wikipedia inclusion because a) It regards a 'notable' ongoing series of beer pong tournaments that cover a large geographical area and have received media attention in multiple cities b) There is enough information and history on World Pong Tour to merit its own article.  Merging with the beer pong article would create too much clutter and unnecessary information which would take away from the original aim of the beer pong article.BEST.of.BUFFALO 04:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, all of your edits to this afd have been anonymous, so I already have your IP. I have a checkuser open for TMan007, so I should be able to bag him. I'm pretty sure he's a sock. No one's first edit is to an XfD.
 * I have noticed your edits to the article. Well done! I have changed my argument to a weak keep.  J- stan  Talk Contribs 15:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - insufficient reliable sources. University papers don't quite cut it. -- Whpq 21:19, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per Whpq. Lots of cites to college papers might help. Bearian 18:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.