Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World War III (Star Trek)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Secret account 02:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

World War III (Star Trek)

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The article is not notable, and is simply a repetition in an in-universe way of plot elements from the various Star Trek episode articles. It is thus totally duplicative and has no encyclopedic content to speak of. Judgesurreal777 21:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep similar to my comment in the also ongoing nomination of Eugenics Wars, this is an important backstory event, and should be covered somewhere on WP. It'd be nice to have a well-referenced section of Star Trek that deals with overarching plot, backstory, and themes without totally dominating that article with cruft. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 22:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Surely, if this concept was so important, then it should be no trouble to find reliable, third-party sources that talk about it. Because right now, no such sources are on the page. AnteaterZot 22:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is as much your responsibility to look for sources as it is everyone else's. "The article cites no sources but I didn't bother to see whether any sources actually exist." doesn't hold much water as an argument.  "The article cites no sources, and although I've done X, Y, and Z, I can find no sources myself." would. Uncle G 04:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That's true, and the fact is, I haven't found anything! It seems, as I suspected it was, lacking in notability. Perhaps there are Star Trek fans among us that can direct us to interviews where it is mentioned, or articles discussing it, but I have seen none of that, and that's what needs to be found. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment A lot of verbage has been drawn from something that was mentioned in a few lines of dialogue in a few episodes. Mandsford 00:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This is true of things other than Star Trek. The question here is not whether that has happened, but whether that has happened outside of Wikipedia, by people sitting down and publishing analyses of this particular aspect of Star Trek, in books, magazines, journal articles, and the like.  You have not addressed this. Uncle G 04:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You can address it enough for both of us. Regardless, Star Trek didn't invent the concept of "World War III".  Mandsford (talk) 22:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * DeleteWP:Plot, WP:WAF, WP:FICT, WP:RS, WP:OR, take your pick it fails all of them. Ridernyc 00:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per my comment above. AnteaterZot (talk) 22:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been listed on the talk page for WikiProject Star Trek. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as lacking any non-primary sources evidencing notability. —   pd_THOR  undefined | 17:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.