Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World famous American sportsmen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete &mdash; Caknuck 05:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

World famous American sportsmen

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How do you definitively decide if someone is World famous? RMHED 00:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * speedy delete as pointless per notice on page. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 00:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * speedy delete pointless Arthur 00:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * keep My rationale was that editors would wish to add more and more sportsmen to the burgeoning list here. My purpose in starting this article is to avoid the US article becoming cluttered -  this will show what I mean. I was thinking ahead but I have no strong views either way. Abtract 00:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Impossible article, neutrality is impossible, why does this exist when there are categories which can be used for sportspeople?  Corvus cornix 00:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I was about to speedy it, but I wasn't sure in the first place, and several people from IRC wasn't sure nither, useless list This is a Secret account 00:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Probably doesn't meet the criteria for speedy deletion, but could possibly meet the unwritten rules for snowball deletion. --Hnsampat 01:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete - subjective cruft. Carlossuarez46 01:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - impossible to maintain WP:NPOV here. Sephiroth BCR  ( Converse ) 01:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete A pointless POV list. Chris!  c t 01:41, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Even as an Englishman, I find the assertion "Defining "world famous" as those whose name is recognised throughout the English speaking world and in the majority of other countries" offensive! I'd also argue that Hulk Hogan is better known that Babe Ruth, but that's beside the point... Duke of Whitstable 02:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I like lists more than most, but this is impossibly subjective. I tried to think of useful criteria and couldn't come up with any that weren't shot full of loopholes (say, "participated in an international competition", which would include any Olympian). I did come up with a list of three of the four names that turn out to be at the end of United States, and I think the four there are enough and it's very hard to think of a longer list, so it seems like an excellent cutoff. --Dhartung | Talk 02:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * OKOK. I was just trying to be helpful but I get the point. :) Abtract 15:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete - as will possibly be future target of neutral point of view violations. There is also a distinct lack of reliable sourcing in each claim. R udget zŋ 18:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


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