Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World of Warcraft Forums (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 20:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

World of Warcraft Forums

 * Previous deletion debate at Articles for deletion/World of Warcraft Forums

It's merely a forum. What value does it have in an encyclopedia? Hundreds of games have forums. The entry is a painful definition of a standard forum with added Warcraft. -- Chris   chat   edits   essays    11:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - I don't see an assertion of notability. So tagged. MER-C 11:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I'd have to disagree. It's previous AFD showed that it did have enough members to meet WP:WEB. So I don't think it a CSD candidate. -- Chris   chat   edits   essays    11:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep While this is poorly written, a quick skim of the article and a click or two of the links reveals that thhis is indeed the official forum maintained by Blizzard!!! As soon as I finish this, I will edit the page in question to establish notability --Roninbk t c e # 12:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Damn, I am a Wikipediholic... Cleaned up the article too. --Roninbk t c e # 13:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment While I appreciate the effort you did to clean up the article, there still aren't any sources and while World of Warcraft is notable, not everything associated with it is. I believe the EVE Online forums was deleted for having lack of sources before as well, but I don't remember.  ColourBurst 19:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've always considered internet forums as a whole non-notable unless they have a very specific reason to be notable.  For example, SomethingAwful is notable, as are 4chan and 2chan.  MMORPG official forums are generally not notable enough to have their existance described in an article--if anything, they should have a section in the main game's article, or not at all.  I play EVE Online, and our forum has over a hundred thousand active members and over 3.5 million posts, but even I don't think it deserves its own article, or even a section in the main article.  There's nothing encyclopedic about your average internet game forum. &mdash;   Da rk Sh ik ar i   talk /contribs  14:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've played both WoW and City of Heroes, and compared to the CoH official forums, the WoW forums are quite unhelpful and vexatious.  This has nothing to do with their notability, of course.  But it isn't really surprising or informative to learn that WoW, like most other major MMORPGs, has an official forum.  A link to the forums in the main World of Warcraft article seems enough. - Smerdis of Tlön 14:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing notable about this forum. Being the official forum for a notable game does not convey notability. MLA 15:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge into the main WoW article. Every online game has/had at least one forum, and there's usually not much that can be said about them. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  16:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above comments, plus: no external sources for any claim to notability. Sandstein 17:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete While the article appears to be pretty well organized and written, as above it has no external, independent references cited. The information is probably accurate, but there are no references of independent sources actually talking about these forums, such as a reliable news article or established gaming reviewer talking about the forums, how they're structured, and what makes them actually interesting and different from similar forums.  In other words, the article is probably almost entirely original research about a set of forums that isn't really different from official forums for other popular games.  Unless there is something that makes these forums stand out, and there are independent sources to verify it, the article should be deleted. Dugwiki 20:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Dugwiki and nom.  Wickethewok 20:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete a mention of the forums existance on the World of Warcraft article is more than enough. Resolute 01:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with WoW article. Not notable on its own. --- RockMFR 04:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.