Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World record progression women's weightlifting (1998–2018)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. "Oppose" presumably = "Keep", and the arguments proffered to do so were more persuasive than the original reason proposed for deltion, viz WP:FORKing, which, in any case, appears to have been effectively withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ——  SerialNumber  54129  16:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

World record progression women's weightlifting (1998–2018)

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I am recommending the following four articles World record progression men's weightlifting, World record progression men's weightlifting (1998–2018), World record progression women's weightlifting and World record progression women's weightlifting (1998–2018) be taken to WP:AFD and deleted as content forks of List of world records in Olympic weightlifting. These four "progression" articles contain only Current records and 1998-2018. The "progression" articles series are missing the 3 articles for men's records (1993-1997 & 1973-1992 & 1920-1972) and 2 articles for women's records (1993-1997 & 1988-1992). The List of world records in Olympic weightlifting already has all of these records. These four "progression" articles need to deleted off of Wikipedia.--Wyn.junior (talk) 16:39, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose first because even the nominator doesn't know what he is talking about ! these articles are totally different. progression means every single broken record is mentioned in these articles. while the main World Record article only has the last record in each period of time before IWF erasing them all. of course if we had that info I would like to create "progression" page for other time periods but unfortunately they are not available. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:51, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


 * You finish the 5 missing articles, User talk:Mohsen1248, then of the content forks. The full info is listed here List of world records in Olympic weightlifting. At least have the full info of the forks listed.--Wyn.junior (talk) 17:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2019 March 24.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 20:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * I SCREWED UP. I am very sorry. I am a good Wikipedia editor though.--Wyn.junior (talk) 15:25, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I do want to see these articles built in the future though:
 * List of world records in powerlifting
 * Progression of the squat world record
 * Progression of the deadlift world record
 * Progression of the snatch world record
 * Progression of the clean and jerk world record
 * Progression of the Olympic snatch world record
 * Progression of the Olympic clean and jerk world record

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:21, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:53, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Oppose I agree with Mohsen1248, it is difficult to find proper sources for world records set before the Moscow Olympics in 1980 which means finding the progression (each successive world record set for each lift) is extraordinarily difficult. The IWF (International Weightlifting Federation) website only has record progression from when the website was created in the early 2000's. American media didn't cover weightlifting "heavily" (olympics) until the the LA Olympics in 1984 (coincidentally the Soviet Friendship Games in Varna in 1984 was where all the records were set, and those might have been unofficial fourth attempts), and finding video footage of world championships or european championships from before 1970 is almost impossible. Most news outlets (in Soviet countries which were the most prolific weightlifting countries) don't necessarily have online archives that store that information. Most results books from the Olympics (available at https://digital.la84.org/) have information for Olympics and records set and records at the time but not the competition they were set. I would love if the information was easier and like Mohsen1248 would happily create the new World Record Progression pages, but currently I believe it's a fools errand.
 * Hamma085 (talk) 02:27, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


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