Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Worn Me Down (song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete A10. SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:17, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Worn Me Down (song)

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This song does not appear to be notable on its own to merit an article. Further, the precision title is unnecessary; if someone things this page is necessary, it should at least be moved (without redirect) to Worn Me Down. But again, why is this particular song with having an article? There's no indication why. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 12:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 10:03, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Silly twinkle. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 13:03, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:12, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Happenstance (Rachael Yamagata album): Unsourced non-notable song fails WP:NSONGS. Aspects (talk) 03:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A title like this (with such WP:PRECISION), is an implausible redirect. If it needs to be redirected, "Worn Me Down" should be the title. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 10:05, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Redirect per Aspects. I just created the redirect for Worn Me Down, so this redirect may not be necessary.  But since the creater of the article felt that the "(song)" was necessary, there seems to be at least some question as to whether some users may attempt to come to this topic via typing in "Worn Me Down (song)" in the mistaken belief that a dab is necessary.  Since redirects are cheap, I think redirect is preferable to delete. Rlendog (talk) 01:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed to Keep & move to Worn Me Down, and replace or merge content with the content in Theornamentalist's sandbox when that is ready. The content of the sandbox article convinces me that this song is notable and can be expanded beyond a stub, and thus keeping is appropriate per WP:NSONGS.  However, it should be titled "Worn Me Down", not "Worn Me Down (song)". Rlendog (talk) 02:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - It appears to be the most popular song on the album, having charted on billboard(mag) and was an AAA top 5 hit, this article speaks sufficiently about it (albeit negatively) and here, about a paragraph speaking positively on it, appeared on a soundtrack apparently has been covered by a capella groups, listed as a top pick single from a billboard columnist, featured song off of her EP, was the first single off of her first album, made a video for it, has appeared on all of these albums, mentioned as a fan favorite here and a hit here. I also remembering hearing it in a ton of commercials and stuff(I know theyre not RS's but just to list them for now TV Show and a commercial, idk, this seems like its swayed towards redirect, but if not, I would be willing to rewrite something for it - Theornamentalist (talk) 18:35, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The article cannot be expanded. A redirect of Worn Me Down (after deleting this too precise title) is the only way to go here. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 18:37, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Another comment; Worn Me Down was already created as a redirect, so now we have duplicates. The redirect is correct; this one should be deleted. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 18:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Duh. Rlen stated he created this, above. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 18:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - If the consensus on this is to "keep" (or if there is no consensus), this article can (and should) be moved to "Worn Me Down" over the redirect I created. This title could remain as a redirect regardless - if the article is kept, it should of course redirect to "Worn Me Down" (which will occur automatically as part of the move). Although it is probably unnecessary as such. Rlendog (talk) 02:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment is what I've mentioned enough? - Theornamentalist (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I still don't see why it can't be a redirect. Then there's the confusion of having two separate titles right now (and this one is wrong). &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 20:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not extremely in support of its own article, but I do think it meets the notability requirements, I remain in support for a weak keep and would be willing to rewrite it, but I won't be upset if it is decided for a redirect. Maybe someone else can give input? - Theornamentalist (talk) 20:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * eh, let me give it a try in a sandbox... - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * rename but keep it should be at Worn Me Down, and since it is apparently a top 5 hit, it should have its own article and not be a redirect, so I would vote no to a merge. Once the redirect is replaced by an article, then this content can be deleted as this is so minimal, it hardly needs attribution! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I may be taking a break for the night (it is friday), but here is what I've been working on so far - Theornamentalist (talk) 01:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I finished writing the article and placed it at Worn Me Down - Theornamentalist (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Good work! Lets keep this new version, the Worn Me Down (song) can now be deleted. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:48, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep; it's notable and has received quite a bit of radio play. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops; I thought you were talking about deleting Worn Me Down. Delete this stub (which we don't need) and redirect it to Worn Me Down. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.