Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wrong Turn 6


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. slakr \ talk / 04:34, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Wrong Turn 6

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Future film not meeting WP:NFF requirements. C 1776 M Talk 01:28, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  01:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep and allow the stub to grow and expand through regular editing. I accept the nom feeling it fails WP:NFF, but WP:NFF paragraph three tells us that once filming has commenced we look instead to WP:NF and WP:GNG and coverage of the production. Point here is that Wrong Turn 6 has commenced filming in Bulgaria, and coverage is growing.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 08:35, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm on my iPad right now and can't view one of the links. I knew it was filming before nominating, but read further down into paragraph three where it says it must be sourced in the article and that unless a video has been released it shouldn't have an article. Will look again for video and source when I can get on a computer. Thanks! C 1776 M Talk 11:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No... unless it's a BLP, an article does not "have" to itself be sourced for the topic to be notable. Per WP:NRVE, sources need to be available that "could" be used, but that lack does not remove notability.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 07:14, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * From the NFF paragraph you linked to above, "Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun." And, "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable."  C 1776 M Talk 11:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You've answered your own question. Sources exist to confirm filming having begun, and you tell us you were aware of it filming before nominating, but you somehow did not catch WP:NRVE's telling us that notability is determined though availability of sources and not through their use in an article. The topic of this film's production now meets WP:GNG and thus the WP:NF instruction at WP:NFF (paragraph 3). "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable." The article was 8-1/2 hours old when you nominated and I ask you to study WP:SURMOUNTABLE. Matters that can be addressed through regular editing, specially brand new articles, are rarely valid cause to delete notable topics.  With respect, understanding WP:DEL and WP:ATD's WP:DEL are important for editors to consider before nominating any notable topic for removal from these pages. And please check WP:NOTCLEANUP. AFD is not a venue to insist that someone else fix addressable issues. With what you know to be factual about this film (it has begn filming and is receiving coverage), hitting the article with a few tags, would have been far more appropriate per policies WP:HANDLE and WP:SOFIXIT.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 22:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * And by the way, is what is intended by those guides and policies I referred to above. I still contend that it serves the project for this to remain and be improved further over the course of time and through regular editing.  Thanks.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:45, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


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