Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wyne (tribe)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Several options are listed here, none of which has a consensus. This can always be nominated again with a stronger rationale for deletion or further editing can remedy the article's issues. Liz Read! Talk! 22:30, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Wyne (tribe)

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The article is too short more like a dictionary definition rather than article, no sources, and might be a hoax. Vitaium (talk) 21:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC) it with the English word 'Wine'? But, in fact, there is no relation between the two words. Wyne has historically been used as a tribal family name in Punjab. I remember working on his still existing Wikipedia article Ghulam Haider Wyne on 3 September 2021. Added 2 more references to that article today (the article already had many newspaper references). This above article Wyne (tribe) was created in 2013 by someone and has been neglected and unsourced since then like many others we run into. Anyone of us may try to find references on Google Books for it where I usually have luck for tribal names. I'll also try to look for them soon. Ngrewal1 (talk) 19:33, 12 April 2022 (UTC) "No this isn't a hoax. This is a family name in Pakistan. Also this is my family name". MNWYNE (talk) 14:04, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Vitaium (talk) 21:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I can’t find any sources to support this. Mccapra (talk) 23:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete G3 Blatant hoax. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.173.231 (talk) 08:15, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Certainly not a hoax! There was a well-known politician that served as the Chief Minister of Punjab, Pakistan from 1990 to 1993 by the name of Ghulam Haider Wyne. We can have some fun here on this forum trying to rhyme
 * Comment Please see this comment copied here from the above article's Talk page from a Wikipedia user who uses this name as his family name:

I'll list here at least two notable Pakistani people with this family name:
 * Ghulam Haider Wyne, Chief Minister of Punjab, Pakistan from 1990 to 1993
 * General Khalid Shameem Wynne, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee of the Pakistan Armed Forces

... Ngrewal1 (talk) 00:00, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 02:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Added 4 new newspaper references and categories to the above article. Ngrewal1 (talk) 01:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Possibly redirect to Wani (surname), which says it's also spelled Wyne and associated with a caste in India and Pakistan/Punjab? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:08, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment the sources added to the article are of no use in establishing that “Wyne” is the name of a “tribe”. They merely establish that it is a surname. The fact that a few people share a surname does not establish the existence of a “tribe” - apparently there are no sources at all that do that. Mccapra (talk) 07:39, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Modussiccandi (talk) 08:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Suggestion First since Wyne sounded too close to the English word 'Wine', it might have been a hoax – which was understandable to me. Now that 4 newspaper references were located and provided to establish that notable people in Pakistan have been using it as their family or surname, the word 'tribe' can be changed in the article title. I suggest that we 'Move page' to make the article title Wyne (name) or Wyne (surname). Many already existing Wikipedia articles have titles like that. Thanks Ngrewal1 (talk) 15:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment If we remove any reference to tribes the page could be about a surname, but with only two names cited, that may not fly either. Mccapra (talk) 21:06, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Disambiguation page. (I apologize, I do not know the proper terminology for turning something into one). Turn "Wyne" into a disambiguation page with the names of notable people with the surname Wyne. ArdynOfTheAncients (talk) 15:17, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Wyne already exists as a disambiguation page. —Bagumba (talk) 09:27, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete We have clearly established that this is not a hoax. But I see absolutely nothing to establish notability. CT55555 (talk) 19:53, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename as Wyne (surname). MOS:DABNAME allows for standalone namelists. Use (surname) disambiguator per WP:APOTITLE.—Bagumba (talk) 09:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Why? All the entries are already listed in Wyne, with the correct exception of General Wynne. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:36, 29 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge to Wyne, which this duplicates.  Sandstein   11:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.