Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/X-Cart (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Pamzeis (talk) 04:50, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

X-Cart
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Smells like covert advertising, considering that the article is basically a list of features. Primary claim to significance is "world's first PHP shopping cart software" and number of users, which are both nice but don't strike me as especially notable. There are plenty of cited sources, but they're either the company website, "best of" lists of questionable notability/independence, interviews, or passing mentions. Couldn't find the Reuters source, but I found a press release with the same title with trivial namechecking of the product (as "this same company also did..."). Best source is the "Merchant Maverick," and frankly it's not much of a source in my opinion. BEFORE gives me a ton of press releases and a few more reviews, but imo this does not demonstrate any significant change in notability since the last AfD. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep It is a poor article, but can be improved through the normal editing process. For WP:GNG, it is not necessary for WP:RS/WP:IS to necessarily have been cited in the article itself...what's required is that such sources exist; WP:BEFORE shows they do for this topic.— Ad Meliora Talk∕Contribs 19:47, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm well aware of what our requirements are for GNG. Since it seems that you have found sources I didn't, can you please link some of the ones you found in your BEFORE? GeneralNotability (talk) 19:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Here are a few: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 — Ad Meliora Talk∕Contribs 19:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Unlike the nom, I believe "world's first PHP shopping cart software" is notable. Of course WP:PEACOCK needs to be reined in, but the subject deserves an article. — Ad Meliora Talk∕Contribs 19:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment This article is a waste of Wikipedia space. All the sources above are terrible - press-releases, prices, mentions - they really do not show any notability; actually they just prove that the company uses Wikipedia as advertising platform and it is hardly notable. If these are all the sources, then I can't imagine how this advertising page can be improved. By the way, I recommend Ad Meliora to read this:


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources --2601:1C0:CB01:2660:D994:7507:E8C9:2764 (talk) 05:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: The article needs a little clean-up. Nonetheless, with the sources presented by Ad Meliora, the article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:03, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: meets WP:GNG and has number of industry publications writing about it, which can be considered peer reviews. Expertwikiguy (talk) 04:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)


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