Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/XEN-SHELL2


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 21:13, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

XEN-SHELL2

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Unreferenced article about a Xen Management Console that fails WP:NSOFT because is not discussed in independent, reliable sources as significant in its particular field, widely used in education, or otherwise historically significant. The author appears to have COI. Mduvekot (talk) 21:04, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:12, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:13, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete: the article doesn't suggest why it passes software notability standards. I'd also recommend that the creator be warned about conflict of interest editing and encouraged to declare.    Dr Strauss   talk   11:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have left a message on 's talk page about COI, paid editing, notability, etc. I'm not going to !vote either way because the article subject is too far outside my areas of expertise for me to judge. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 22:44, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Further comment: I just noticed that Dettenbach left a long comment here arguing to keep the article. I can't make heads or tails of it myself, but it should probably be taken into account by other !voters and/or the closing admin; there are sources cited, even if some of them look not to be independent. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 22:51, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Please see below the creator of the article's argument, copied from the talk page of this AfD:

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Allow time for comments on page creator's comments from talk page, now copied onto this page
 * Dear all here,
 * XEN-SHELL2 is a public project (GPL licensed) as initially referenced here within WP:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen#Xen_Management_Consoles
 * The "2" at the end is not part of a "versioning" - it is a synonymous for "NG" (new generation). The development is done / complete and further changes just cover API or UI changes
 * within the Xen project or security patches - so there is no large developer community is required around the project. The software is self-explainable to users on that level.
 * The initial publishing of the code/project was on on Xen Users Mailing List (2015):
 * https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-users/2015-02/msg00010.html
 * Since then there was mulktiple discussions / posting regarding XEN-SHELL2 from different Xen Users. I did not checked the other mailing lists of the xen project regarding this as the *:: archive is not easy to search through from google and Co. and i'm not on that public lists yet.
 * The official listing by Xenproject.org (comes some weeks ago):
 * https://www.xenproject.org/directory/directory/projects/263-xen-shell2.html
 * For Contributors preferring GitHUB:
 * https://github.com/nielsd/xen-shell2
 * https://xen-tools.org/software/xen-shell/
 * "Third party" HOWTOs and Docs:
 * https://www.howtoforge.de/anleitung/verwalten-von-xen-mit-xen-tools-xen-shell-und-argo/
 * http://www.openskill.info/infobox.php?ID=1452
 * The xen-shell2-latest.tar.gz on the main project site get around 20 downloads per day (non bots).
 * "known" Users:
 * https://www.wecare.de/
 * https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Xen_Shell
 * https://syndicat.com (self)
 * Typical "users" of XEN-SHELL2 are small to medium Internet Hosting Providers or Providers of Virtual Servers / Machines which work with Xen within their networks. Most end users of
 * XEN-SHELL" did not known that they are interacting with this software.
 * In the german Wikipedia XEN-SHELL2 is the only entry under "management consoles for console":
 * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen#Verwaltungen_f.C3.BCr_Konsole
 * It would be nice if you recognize the project as one of the ("few") existing management consoles for Xen it really is. Many thanks to all here.
 * pls keep Dettenbach (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * https://www.wecare.de/
 * https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Xen_Shell
 * https://syndicat.com (self)
 * Typical "users" of XEN-SHELL2 are small to medium Internet Hosting Providers or Providers of Virtual Servers / Machines which work with Xen within their networks. Most end users of
 * XEN-SHELL" did not known that they are interacting with this software.
 * In the german Wikipedia XEN-SHELL2 is the only entry under "management consoles for console":
 * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen#Verwaltungen_f.C3.BCr_Konsole
 * It would be nice if you recognize the project as one of the ("few") existing management consoles for Xen it really is. Many thanks to all here.
 * pls keep Dettenbach (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if you recognize the project as one of the ("few") existing management consoles for Xen it really is. Many thanks to all here.
 * pls keep Dettenbach (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * pls keep Dettenbach (talk) 07:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 22:58, 19 August 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Per above relist.
 * Delete. From my own searching, I don't see the kind of WP:RS we need to establish WP:N.  -- RoySmith (talk) 19:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947(c) (m) 19:16, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete / speedy delete -- A7 / G11 material all cited to itself. Wikipedia is not a product brochure. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:08, 28 August 2017 (UTC)


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