Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xim3


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ironholds (talk) 02:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Xim3

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Contested PROD. Article about a non-notable product. The article has had some problems with spam and copyright violations, but those issues can be solved with rewriting; what can't be solved as easily is the issue of notability. A search for sources yields only primary sources/press releases and a few trivial mentions in tech blogs. If anybody finds more in the way of significant coverage in reliable sources, it should be kept, otherwise deleted until it becomes notable. bonadea contributions talk 17:28, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe the XIM3 article is about a very notable product. It is the first of its type to provide completely accurate game play and is allowed by microsoft. It also incorporates a technology of "smart translators" which is able to create an exact 1v1 ration between mouse movement and controller movement. The statement that it has a "few trivial mentions" is an understatement. It is being mentioned all over the web and popularity is increasing by the minute. The current community on the forum is 8471 users. . . That is just on the developers forum. I believe this is more than a non-notable product.Webb.joshua (talk) 17:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, what you need, then, is to find reliable sources that demonstrate such notability - sources from independent third parties that discuss the product with more than just a passing mention. Have a look at WP:N to understand what notability means in a Wikipedia context, and WP:RS to learn about the kinds of sources you need. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

http://hothardware.com/News/XIM3-Adapter-Enables-Keyboard--Mouse-Control-On-Xbox-360/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/xim3-final-hardware-revealed-coming-soon-to-give-an-unfair-adva/

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/xim3-brings-high-precision-mouse-keyboard-controls-to-the-xbox-360-2011027/

http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/gaming-electronics/xim3-mega-adapter.xhtml

http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/20101220/xim-technologies-xim3-adapter/

Do any of these count? And if so, do I put them on here? I will continue my search. . .this was all just from the first page of google searching. . . Webb.joshua (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hopefully someone will be able to evaluate them for you before too long - I'm afraid I'm a bit too busy to do so myself right now. But while we have your attention here, please take note of the warnings on your Talk page, and stop filling the article with a crapflood of promotional unencyclopedic trivia, like personal comments ("I personally know tons of gamers who..."), a minute-by-minute account of the store's opening, and the "8471 members and counting" stuff about the community. That is just NOT how an encyclopedia is written. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, this is my first time doing this. I am now adding "relevant" information. . . . keyword being informationWebb.joshua (talk) 18:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment regarding the sources listed above. Those are the ones I found when I looked for sources before nominating for deletion; to my mind, none of the sources meets the primary criteria regarding depth of coverage; these are short notices in various tech blogs, saying, basically, "Here is this gadget that seems to do this but we haven't been able to get hold of it". That doesn't really cut it as significant coverage - and for at least some of the sources there does not seem to be independent coverage either (thetechjournal.com for instance simply reprints text written by the company, and engadget.com quotes the XIM3 development blog.) --bonadea contributions talk 09:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I have looked at all of the offered sources, and I agree with Bonadea's assessment of them. I see no evidence of notability. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

This product is just finishing its open beta and is about to go completely public. They are hiring a PR person and it will be all over the web soon. I dont know what you actually plan on deleting it, but trust me, there will be plenty of web coverage for this product before too much longer. Webb.joshua (talk) 18:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, though, Wikipedia policy is to host articles for things after they have attained coverage, not on someone's trust that they will do soon. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, with regret - I appreciate Webb.joshua is trying hard to create a good article, but the sources just don't show notability to me. If it is deleted, I'd suggest userfying it so it can be resurrected if and when it does attain notability. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Ive saved all the info so that if it does get deleted, in a few weeks when things sky rocket, I will repost it. Thanks for being easy to work with and dealing with my noobieness on Wikipedia lol.Webb.joshua (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

ANDDDD, I did the name wrong, its XIM3 lol. SO if it does get deleted, ill get to do the name right next time! Webb.joshua (talk) 18:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Can I suggest when you try again that you put it on a subpage of your userpage and ask a regular for advice before loading it into mainspace? I know all the editors commenting here are willing to help people (possibly not within 20 mins of the request being posted, but as soon as we can - bearing in mind that we are leading double or treble lives...). Peridon (talk) 18:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Once I have it added to one of my pages, how would I go about asking one of you all for help? It it helps at all, I work as an IT guy so I know what I am doing when it comes to computers. Just getting used to the interface of Wikipedia and how to use it(besides just searching for information).Webb.joshua (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just leave a message on our talkpages. To spot a regular editor, look at their talkpage - you'll tell by the messages. If they're all red links and complaints about what they've done, no, go elsewhere. Or make a note of us and type user:(name) in the search box. (This won't be where it is on mine - I still prefer the old skin.) If not sure how to do a subpage, just ask. Peridon (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.