Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yūsen Kojima


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  11:38, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Yūsen Kojima

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Rationale borrowed from my previous similar AfD of Keizaburō Saeki, which itself was largely borrowed from (courtesy ping) at Articles for deletion/Hideki Kasai. Keizaburō Saeki, Hideki Kasai, and this currently-nominated article are all identical bot-created articles. I have nominated several others for deletion (Articles for deletion/Ichirō Kosaka is currently running; the others have ended).

To quote Cckerberos: "This article is a generic stub, generated by a bot in 2007. It makes no specific claim to notability; it appears that similar stubs were created for every photographer listed in 328 Outstanding Japanese Photographers, all with the format "Name (years) is a renowned Japanese photographer" (compare the nominated article with Gen Ōtsuka, for example). Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography states that the sole criteria for inclusion in the book was to have a single photograph in the museum's permanent collection at the time the book was published. That doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE."

In addition to Cckerberos's excellent commentary, I'll note that I've done as thorough a WP:BEFORE check as possible for an English-speaker: Google searches of both the English and Japanese order of the English transliteration of his name, with the spelling Yusen and Yuzen. I have also checked the Japanese name. In this case I found no Google book results. The only web result was the Tokyo Photographic Museum website which confirms he has photos there.

There were no other results for any version of the English name, or the Japanese name. He is absent from the reasonably thorough The History of Japanese Photography. The Japanese Wikipedia has no article about him, so there are no sources to be borrowed from it. I searched his Japanese name there and found nothing in any other article.

In the absence of reliable sources, we cannot verify that this person is notable, so the article, like many of the previous bot-generated photographers before it, should be deleted. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 07:19, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:16, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nom. I see no evidence of meeting WP:GNG. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 21:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KCVelaga (talk) 02:23, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Qono (talk) 17:44, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I have my copy of the much-cited book in front of me. Kojima's entry takes up page 129. Or perhaps I should say that the entry and unusually large margins take up the page. The author -- Kaneko (feeble Japanese-language stub) himself -- finds, or anyway found, very little to say about Kojima. I could summarize/paraphrase this as a single paragraph, but the result might well be taken to a third AFD. And very few contributors to English-language Wikipedia are ready to write up Japanese photographers, however worthwhile, who don't happen to be trendy; so chances that this would end up as a worthwhile article seem vanishingly small. Therefore delete, without prejudicing any later attempt to write something good. -- Hoary (talk) 02:32, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * , for the record I would have zero objections to restoring this immediately if any additional sources were located. Please feel free to ping me at any point if that's the case (this goes for any of the Japanese photographer bot-stubs I've AfD'd). &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 04:41, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * That's very reasonable. Thank you, PMC. -- Hoary (talk) 04:48, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, no need to thank me, it's only fair. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:03, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


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