Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Y.J. (Young Jonii)


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The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 02:49, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Y.J. (Young Jonii)

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Delete Does not meet the basic notability criteria. I can't find any sort of non-trivial media coverage. He has never released an album. Pichpich (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Delete; originator asked for advice at RfF, explained to him while it was still on his userspace that the current footnotes don't meet notability (they're just streaming sites), but was apparently disregarded. MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... well he has appeared in the kanye west remix and its apparent in that sense,file that is considered the source (Bama standard (talk) 15:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC))


 * Also Notability 11: Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. again goes with the kanye west song.... (Bama standard (talk) 16:24, 2 May 2011 (UTC))


 * Comment: note that WP:Notability is not the same as literal "notability". He could be a great guy and getting a lot of radio play, but per WP:N we need to see independent, reliable, substantive coverage about him. We're not at all debating how famous or talented he is, that isn't part of the requirement and discussing that won't help this current issue. What we need to have this article be published is some news articles that don't just vaguely mention him, but provide substantive coverage. If he doesn't have that yet, you might need to come back in a few months once he's gotten coverage in some newspapers, major hip-hop magazines, etc. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * As far as I understand his appearance on the Kanye West remix consists of saying "I'm here". You might have a point if he actually had a verse or even a quarter of a verse. Pichpich (talk) 18:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * As per Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, an "up and comer", no matter how promising, has to wait until he gets substantive media coverage. Though, if he's getting top-level shout-outs, that coverage may be coming sooner than later. If you can't find coverage now, don't think of going back to drafting as a hit, think of it as poising to come out strong once the media breaks on him. No point in starting him with a weak article when fame is coming down the pipe. Plus in the meantime you can contact his people and see if you can get a publicity photo released to Creative Commons to have ready for the article down the road; see WP:OTRS for how to gain and document photo permissions to prove you aren't breaking copyright rules. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

That's completely agreeable "delete" this worldspace article and more it to userspace? (Bama standard (talk) 21:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC))

"You might have a point if he actually had a verse or even a quarter of a verse." It is evident Bama standard (talk) 00:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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