Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Y2J


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. —  Aitias  // discussion 05:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Y2J

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The band has won a singing competition and has signed up for a music label. It does not meet the notiability guidelines --Lawe (talk) 10:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Along with the deletion of this page are articles for the two singers Jane Huang and Yuming Lai. The notibility of these band members is limited to being in this musical act which does not meet the notibility guidelines. Therefore I am also nominating the following related pages because they refer to the members of this act:


 * Delete --Lawe (talk) 10:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Restore redirect to Chris Jericho as one of his nicknames, as it had been done before determined editors hijacked it to this unnotable act.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 10:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Restore redirect and delete hijack edits, per Nate.  Lugnuts  (talk) 11:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Restore redirect for now until the group releases its second album. WP:MUSIC does state that notability is established iff an artist "has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." Universal Music is, of course, notable, so if and only if the group releases a second album, the article can be re-created. Pandacomics (talk) 16:18, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's just one of the criteria. There are at least 10 others it could meet to qualify. - Mgm|(talk) 19:03, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Meets WP:MUSIC number 9: "Has won or placed in a major music competition." - Mgm|(talk) 19:02, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, Yuming was the only one who won, so going by that guideline, only he would fit notability standards. Jane Huang, who placed seventh, would not. To say placing seventh counts as "placing" by those guidelines is too much of a stretch. Pandacomics (talk) 20:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  21:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, they have appeared in multiple independent news stories, although most of them are rather lighthearted (the guy needs to lose weight or they got wet filming a video). A couple of relatively sensible ones: This one is about the hidden tracks on their album being taken for a flaw in the CD. This one  is about them participating in an international song contest in the PRC. Juzhong (talk) 13:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I should clarify my feelings: merge Jane Huang into Y2J, optionally merge Yuming Lai as well (I can't be bothered to look for independent notability for either of them). Juzhong (talk) 05:51, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. If Yuming Lai passes WP:MUSIC criterion 9, then Y2J passes criterion 6. Wikilawyering apart, it seems that Juzhong has found enough sources to get them through the general notability guideline anyway. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:51, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.