Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ya’akov Banai


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 20:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Ya’akov Banai

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Delete Not notable. Fails to meet WP:GNG Bladeofgrass (talk) 17:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikinews (if they want it), then either Delete or Convert to stub. Article written too much like a news source, and will require a fundamental re-write to become encyclopedic. This might pass notability though in a better article. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 17:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. People looking for sources should note that the subject's first name can be spelt Ya’akov, Yaakov, Ya’acov, Yaacov or Jacob, and possibly in other ways. and that Lehi is frequently referred to in English as the Stern Gang. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've added a couple of sources to the article, and as the subject was one of the leaders of a very important group, I'm sure that there will be many more available. My only concern is that this could be a copyright violation, as it reads as if it has been copied from an obituary. I'm rather reluctant to spend much time on looking for more sources if this has be deleted anyway for copyright reasons. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and Repost as stub, keeping both references added. Now satisfied article does pass notability, but it still needs a fundamental rewrite, and given the possibility of a copyvio, it's probably better to start again. Might change mind if original poster clarifies source of text. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 18:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.   -- Ray (talk) 18:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep There appears to be ample material on the subject for notability, judging from the article as of this time. Ray (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - has historical notability as senior Lehi member. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and rewrite if there are demonstrable copyvio problems. Important historical figure. DGG (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong keep (I initially removed the PROD) - I have added some sources to the article. Definitely notable person, but as Phil Bridger I'm concerned that the text has been ripped from somewhere else and possibly a copyvio. This is not a valid reason for deleting the article however, only some of the text, as the article certainly has encyclopedic content.  I have no interest in working on the article myself. Power.corrupts (talk) 07:40, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The only problem with that is that, if it is copyrighted, simply deleting the copyrighted text does not entirely get rid of the copyvio as it will still be available in the history ... Alternatively, how easy is it to totally delete the copyrighted revisions? Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 08:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - not an ideal article, but plenty of reliable sources mention this somewhat important individual. - Biruitorul Talk 03:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * My apologies for what appears to be a bit of a mess. I translated this article from an obituary that appeared in Hebrew from the Arutz 7 website: http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/183861 .  I sent it out to all the family members that do not speak Hebrew and one of them took the initiative to place it on Wikipedia.  I don't know if this qualifies as a copyvio and am willing to work to improve it so that it will meet wikipedia's standards.  Since this would be the first time I am doing so, I would appreciate any advice/suggestions. Chinguri (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If someone copy-pasted it from another website, it probably is a copyvio. There are ways of getting copy-pasted articles acceptable under Wikipedia's GFDL license, but the easiest thing is to re-write the article in your own words (preferably taking care to write from neutral point of view). Someone will need to delete the original text from the page history, but that's someone else's job. Don't worry too much about using the right style for Wikipedia; if there's any problems, someone will clean it up. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 22:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It is not exactly copy-pasted, since I translated from the original using my own words, but I hear what you are saying and see that this does not meet Wikipedia's standards. I will work on it in the coming days and hopefully it will read more like a Wikipedia entry. Chinguri (talk) 15:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


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