Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yaakov Horowitz


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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Yaakov Horowitz

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Of the two provided sources, the first is a directory and genealogy that is not available online; based on the texts' description, it seems unlikely to have coverage of the subject that is both significant and independent, as it was written and published by the Horowitz-Margareten family. The second source,, does not mention anyone matching this articles' subject's biographical information. Searching online and on Google scholar, I was only able to find false positives about other individuals named Yaakov or Jacob Horowitz. The pre-existing redirect should be reinstated, as the current article's subject does not appear to meet WP:GNG or any other relevant guideline. signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 19:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Here is a link to the full online text of the Horowitz-Margareten family ( https://archive.org/stream/directorygenealo00marg/directorygenealo00marg_djvu.txt). Reb Yaakov Horowitz, who was the eldest son of famous Hasidic Rebbe, Shmelke of Nikolsburg. He among the earliest Hasidic rabbis of Hungary, which makes him notable in his own right. Genealogy plays a huge role in Hasidic Judaism and Reb Yaakov Horowitz is a largely relevant figure in this capacity. Ibn Daud (talk) 20:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you find any independent sources that establish Yaakov as an early Hasidic rabbi in Hungary? The text you've provided is non-independent and I haven't been able to find any other texts that can verify the claim. signed,Rosguill talk 20:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per WP:OUTCOMES. Genealogy plays a huge role in secular European society, but we have eliminated literally hundreds of articles about minor nobility who are unsourced except to family lists. Bearian (talk) 18:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:21, 13 February 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Doesn't come close to meeting WP:GNG. The first source is an inaccessible genealogy directory and the other doesn't even mention him. Even if he was an early Hasidic rabbi in Hungary (a claim for which no evidence has been provided), that alone would not make him notable (see WP:OUTCOMES)Yaakovaryeh (talk) 07:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


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