Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yadollah Khalili


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__.  Sandstein  10:33, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Yadollah Khalili

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NN pilot. Fails WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 10:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Military,  and Iran. UtherSRG (talk) 10:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Actually appears to pass WP:GNG even with the sources in the article. Probably more Farsi-language sources. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:07, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Certainly meet WP:GNG--Patricia  (Talk)  12:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Sourcing is atrocious - the newspaper article in Donya e Eqtesad barely mentions Khalili (in a long eulogy to various fighter aces, titled 'Myths of Iranian Skies' - it merely notes "One of the best F-14s, participating in long air patrols, many times single-handedly drove away several enemy MiGs", while other pilots get paragraphs devoted to them. The aerospace talk link seems to be a forum but is in fact a broken link. The other source, rahrovan-artesh, is based on a blog and recounts his exploits in prose that makes GA Henty seem like Enid Blyton. In short, we have no RS-based factual evidence (and I note the claims in the article are not cited) regarding any record as a fighter ace and on that basis, unless someone can find reliable sources in Persian (and I note the Persian article is the same text as the English and same sources), Imma go delete. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sourcing is artrocious?! i dont think so. use this word: Artrocious, its not fair.--Patricia (Talk)  13:23, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * *facepalm. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Oaktree b (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:18, 18 July 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  05:54, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 04:15, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

add another source blonge to pakistan air force about subject:IRIAF badass airaces--Patricia (Talk)  13:47, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Final relist Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:55, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure I follow, @Patricia Mannerheim... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * see source no:1--Patricia <font face="tahoma" size="1" style="color: grey">(Talk)  15:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * I added another refrenc. Now it's no.2. The ref is in English. Actually appears to pass WP:GNG.--<font face="Georgia" size="3" style="color:navy">Patricia <font face="tahoma" size="1" style="color: grey">(Talk)  15:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG. Not seeing enough in terms of solid secondary RS. Intothatdarkness 19:52, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
 * added one ref: Cooper, Tom; Bishop, Farzad (2004), Holmes, Tony; Hales-Dutton, Bruce (eds.), Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat, Osprey Combat Aircraft, vol. 49, Oxford: Osprey Publishing, ISBN 1-84176-787-5.--<font face="Georgia" size="3" style="color:navy">Patricia  <font face="tahoma" size="1" style="color: grey">(Talk)  15:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - an Iranian ace deserves an article. But the refs just aren't there.
 * First, I checked the book, Iranian F-14 Tomcat Units in Combat. I don't have it so I went to amazon. When I use amazon.com's look inside feature and search for Yadollah Khalili, I come up with nothing. Then I look at the index and see why: the book only lists aircrew for a small fraction of the total F-14 victories.
 * "IRIAF badass airaces". Pakistan Defence - mentions Khalili once in passing
 * "Memories of the Greatest Air Fight in the World". Oral History. - good enough for me to believe, but not enough for our rules
 * مستند نبردهای تامکت پخش شده از شبکه یک صدا و سیما جمهوری اسلامی ایران. No link, no description
 * "اسطوره‌های آسمان‌های ایران". روزنامه دنیای اقتصاد in my browser's very sketchy translation doesn't seem like it's about Khalili or aircraft
 * ماجرای ثبت طولانی ترین گشت هوایی رزمی جهان. - عملیات ها و دستاوردهای نهاجا در جنگ - رهروان ارتش - links to a message board - not a reliable source
 * قهرمانان نیروی هوایی - صفحه ". www.aerospacetalk.ir -- My browser couldn't find that domain.
 * Note that the URL is: www.aerospacetalk.ir/vb/ showthread .php?t=23519&page=7
 * If it's to a discussion thread, it would not meet our requirements.
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 00:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)


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