Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yahel Sherman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Yahel Sherman

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I PRODded it with the following:
 * No indication of notability. All references are to subject's own pages (his own site or his facebook), or directory entries. My own search on ("DJ Yahel", his performing name) finds almost nothing; only seven Google News Hits, all of which are passing mentions. Google hits (apart from news, ) are all merely mentioning a scheduled performance, or are to the subject's own pages: home page, facebook, soundcloud, youtube, etc.

PROD was declined, with the only reference added to support notability being this interview, which appears to be pretty much a blog. It's actually not a news site; its "news section" is pretty much just uploads of songs and other audio and video files, "a selection of recently uploaded Songs, DJ Mixes & Music Videos for your enjoyment". TJRC (talk) 03:29, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree that the content of the article is weak, and that existing english language references are limited, but I would argue that the article should be improved rather than deleted. This artist is prolific, touring all over the world and not just performing, but headlining large events.  Another point towards notability is that "his Facebook following" is 150,000 people.  Perhaps the disconnect here is that most of the online references about him are written in Hebrew.  cooldavid (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 04:44, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Cooldavid, it's not that the references are in non-English. I mentioned 7 Google News hits above, and of those seven, only one (the internetdj.com interview) is English. But look at all the others, they're just passing mentions, regardless of language, mentioning that he performed, for example.
 * Your points about the size of his following, him being prolific, etc., are really not an argument that he's notable; they're an argument that he should be notable, that he should be getting more coverage in reliable sources. But we don't base inclusion on whether we think a particular subject should be notable; we base it on whether the subject is in fact notable.
 * If you do have reliable sources, regardless of language, that indicate his notability, please provide them; I would be happy to support retention in that case. TJRC (talk) 21:36, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Doesn't meet notability standards. Insufficient coverage, more like an ad. VanEman (talk) 06:32, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. /wiae  /tlk  15:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete as searches found nothing better and there's currently nothing convincingly better to suggest keeping. SwisterTwister   talk  22:42, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Don't Delete Yahel is a very known notability and he is in wikipedia for a few years for a reason. As for interviews, Yahel's likes to have a very private life (unlike on his early stages) therefore he's rarely doing any media. He got 150K followrs on Facebook for a reason. He is a very known producer for many years, like Armin Van Buuren and Tiesto. He had also been working with Tiesto (while Tiesto was still producing Trance). Yahel is also connected with the very known Infected Mushroom and DJ Skazi too. 2 Days ago Yahel was to join them on stage in a show to thousands of people on a huge event celebrating 20 years to Infected Mushroom. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Culture/Get-infected-451105 Vincent De Moor in on Wikipedia too and Yahel's is much more known than him. AnimalLiberation (talk)
 * The only mention of Yahel on the Jerusalem Post article is "During the third and final set the party will really take off, as Eisen and Duvdevani will invite DJs Astrix, Yahel and Riot Universe to join them onstage." That's it; no other discussion of Yahel. That's the kind of "passing mention" I referred to above; it does not indicate notability.  Being "connected to" another entertainer does not make one notable: see WP:NOTINHERITED. Such a connection might merit a mention in the other entertainer's article (assuming the other entertainer is notable and has an article), at most.


 * Whether Vincent de Moor has an article is irrelevant. Each article is deleted or retained on its own merits, not on the basis of another article; see WP:OCE. It may well be that the other article should be deleted, too, for all we know, or there may be some substantial differences between the subjects that merit keeping one and not the other. The focus on this discussion is on the Yahel Sherman article. TJRC (talk) 14:39, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Comment The subject looks notable from the article content but there are almost no citations at all it is therefor difficult to evaluate. Caseeart (talk) 05:47, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 20:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Don't Delete I did a google search on the Hebrew version of his name (יהל שרמן) and several additional interviews and articles came up, which leads a bit more credence towards not deleting the article on the basis of notability. Perhaps a Hebrew speaker could take a look and see if the article can be fixed with content that can be properly sourced? cooldavid (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:38, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I would not object to retention if any of those sources pan out and show him as notable; nor to relisting this for another go-round to allow some time for that. You might want to find a relevant WikiProject to ask for help. I note that the Hebrew Wikipedia entry he:יהל_שרמן is completely unsourced.
 * My own Google search on the Hebrew word, adding "DJ" (and "-wikipedia" to miss most Wikipedia copies), doesn't seem to find anything that looks like a reliable source as that term is used here at Wikipedia, but that's admittedly hampered by my being unable to read Hebrew. But they appear to be the same type of sources found in English-language searches: Facebook page, discographies, passing mentions. TJRC (talk) 01:17, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  02:10, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - unable to find enough in-depth coverage to show notability. Discussion has been open for weeks now with no significant improvement.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:25, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I see a lot of discussion about his coverage from social media, blogs, and other kinds of things that aren't reliable sources. I'm sympathetic to electronic indie type artists trying to break through, but notability just isn't well-established here. When he does get noticed, it's something like this aforementioned article that only touches on his musical work in passing. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 23:23, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm torn on this has he does seem to meet #5 on Notability_(music). However, just because you meet one (they only one he meets) doesn't mean it belongs. I google news him a the only post found is from 2007. Nothing else. Since, it's a BLP it has to be delete. -- Everyone Dies In the End  (talk) 10:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


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